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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that applying disc has been found and is

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game is rigged change the game game

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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I need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on The Game Changer Network

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thank you

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I would like to welcome everybody

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listing all around the world all across

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is Fade to Black for kjcr the game

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Jimmy Church what is cracking everybody

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how you doing

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tonight kicking off this is now

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tonight very special guest Tony rathman

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of entity voices is with us

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for Halloween night one we're gonna do

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this all the way to the

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one year anniversary show on Halloween

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with open lines all night long and uh

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I know what you're you're you're

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Jimmy's wearing glasses

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man I I wore my eyeballs out in in Egypt

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I'm serious I just wore him out

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two feet not so good and these screens

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life Expo Serena was there uh Christina

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what whatever the media is you can

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live button and uh hold on watch this

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next year so we've got two Egypt trips

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off Halloween uh from now all the way

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Monday October 31st all right follow me

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on Twitter at J Church radio the sandbox

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is hashtag f2b on Twitter normally it's

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live right in front of me and uh right

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now it is now now it's there

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now it's there okay all right hashtag

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f2b on Twitter and hashtag f2bq is any

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let's get to the breaking news

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the rocket that will conduct the first

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nine individual satellites mostly built

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in the United Kingdom will take the

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right a few hundred kilometers above the

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Earth that's incredible from

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British soil for the first time now

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check this out an engineer

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working at Elon Musk SpaceX was put into

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a coma after suffering a head injury

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while testing a rocket part according to

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people familiar with the matter uh the

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occupational safety and health

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investigation summary that a SpaceX

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the family let's just say our thoughts

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are with with him and everything that is

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principle let's put that in quotes

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social media platform's parent company

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called Parliament Technologies and they

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Vlad NASA

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all right here we go let's get the show

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Kraken on this day in history

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private Harry far of the British

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expeditionary force is executed for

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cowardice after he refused to go forward

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Western Front during World War One

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fader fact

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in ancient Egypt

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the word for cat

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and that

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is your favorite you didn't know that

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it was actually a fader fact like in

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how you doing tonight very special guest

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Tony rathman right here host on the X

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and of course the host along with his

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wife Sheree of entity voices is with us

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for Halloween night one tomorrow night

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Mike ricksecker is back with us for

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Halloween night two Thursday is another

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fader night with open lines all night

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now it's time for me to hit those River

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yeah

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go back Lee tappy I'm telling you best

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coffee in the world uh promo code f2b

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blend if you go to the website

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rivermoonwellness.com and if you visit

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the Amazon store your Prime member you

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get free shipping so there you go you

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know what happened

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uh the other day

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on my phone

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I got a suggestion from Amazon in a text

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you know it happens you know once in a

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while trying to sell me another pair of

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Adidas tennis shoes or something right

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there

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check out River Moon coffee Fade to

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Black blend I was like what

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took a screenshot

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yeah it was pretty cool it was pretty

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cool feeling

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all right

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foreign

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I don't know how we did it but we did

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we're here

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show number 1700.

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and

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today is the 18th it's October 18th

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eight days ago

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I turned 59 years old

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59.

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and

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here's here's here's the trippy thing

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what's next that's right

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60. not I'm not quite prepared for that

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so I'm enjoying 59 while it's still last

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never thought that 50s would sound young

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to me 60 is scaring the crap out of me

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but anyway so I'm 59

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my head

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my mind

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is the same as when I was 18 19 20 21

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years old I feel the same

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I act the same I don't

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my vision of somebody that was 59

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when I was 21 I ain't that guy

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I am simply not that guy my head I am

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who I am and and I I it's not that I

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haven't grown up I've just stayed the

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same

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I haven't changed

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and I'd like to think I'm a little

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smarter and and and all that stuff but

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59 right

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and so let's analyze this for a second

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because

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in the last two weeks

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this is what I've just in the last two

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weeks

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I went to Egypt

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I flew back to the United States next

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day I did a show here

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and then

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I built the next day I built a an RC

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truck track in my backyard with Brad and

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his son Jonah

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race trucks all day the next day I

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haven't even talked about this the next

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day

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we went to Edwards Air Force Base for

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the uh air show that was out there which

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um did that all day walked as if I

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hadn't walked enough this month

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um that air show is ginormous the the

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the base itself is huge we're out there

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in the in the sun it was beautiful it

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was it was an awesome day but

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walking

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and uh did that

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uh come back from that the next day

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which was yesterday

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I go to uh the movie premiere uh with

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James Fox uh two-hour drive to uh

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Hollywood uh to a hard drive back watch

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the movie

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um I have not rested and then today I'm

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doing Fade to Black tomorrow Fade to

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Black Thursday Fade to Black this

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weekend I'm doing three days of taping

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uh for the final uh four episodes of my

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new TV series on the announcement for

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that will be coming next week

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and uh I haven't stopped

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now I don't know if this is how a 59

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year old old dude is supposed to act

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um but I I don't feel it I don't I don't

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know where this 59 year old thing is

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supposed to show itself

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um I'm okay except for the glasses today

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right

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um so

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now here's the deal

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let's back up so we're in Egypt and uh

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uh now I'm gonna share a couple of

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things with you the first day not not

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the first day the first

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uh

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say was was that the bent pyramid in

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Sakara

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and and I'm good man I'm fresh

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jet lag not a part of my game it's never

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been I've never been affected by it and

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I'm fresh man I'm cool I'm ready and we

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show up uh in you know it's in Sakara in

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the middle of the desert we pull up and

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I look at this pyramid and I've studied

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it I know what's inside of it I know

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what I'm prepared for

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but I wasn't quite ready for the size

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and it's almost as big as the Great

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Pyramid it's it's that big it's just

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ginormous but I'm fresh I'm cool I'm

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good and and so was everybody else we

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all jump off the buses and we're all

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excited and we're shooting video

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and

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um

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I walk over with Billy

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uh and Elizabeth and we're leading the

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to everybody's behind us and here we go

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we go up and there's stairs in front we

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go up the stairs I got this on videotape

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and uh videotape I've kind of done video

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uh the uh us entering uh the pyramid

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and uh we get up to the top like I said

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I'm fresh man I'm good I'm

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let's let's do this

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and we

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we enter

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and Billy then I see

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what's really going on and the tunnel

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is this big

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okay it's like two feet by two feet

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it might be

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Square

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okay so it's not

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and and I'm like and Billy and now this

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descends

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and I don't know how many

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you know 100 200 300 feet

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down like this 45 degree angle

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and I'm watching Billy disappear

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and you have to do it backwards you're

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not going face head first

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you've got to go backwards

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on all fours and I watch Billy spin

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around and he and he's descending there

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goes Elizabeth she's in front of me

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and I'm like oh man

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okay so I do what they're doing and I'm

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I'm running down backwards

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my 59 year old ass right thinking that

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it's nothing

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we go

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I don't know how many minutes

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10 15 minutes descending

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in this tunnel my hands are right here

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back is hitting the top of the tunnel

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and uh and we get to the bottom and

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here's the deal so everybody comes in

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and we're in this this big room

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um the deep underground man deep deep

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and you're just thinking about what's

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above you my 59 year old ass

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and we get everybody in the room and now

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we're in there for about an hour 45

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minutes an hour

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and uh the last people come in and we're

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you know doing our thing and stuff and I

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was like okay I'm good I'm done

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I I you know so I I'm first out I'm

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first in I'm first out and I I go down

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the ladder and I look up and I cannot

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see the top of the tunnel

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the sunlight it's straight I don't see

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it

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I'm like oh man here we go

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and now I'm crawling up

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when I just went down going down is one

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thing going up is a whole other matter

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and and I get to the top and was very

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spiritual the whole thing this the this

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it's it's so physical and you're going

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through you're it's it says spiritual

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experience

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and um and that's so anyway I make it

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I'm like 20 yards from the top and I

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stopped and I was like okay

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this is where it ends

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this is it

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this is how this is this is how this is

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how I go out because I

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anyway I continue I all right and I come

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out of the top

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and

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through the most extreme thing that I've

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done

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at any point in my entire life and I've

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done crazy stuff I've done strenuous

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stuff I've ran I've Mountain biked I've

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downhilled I've Cliff dived I've I've

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I've

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like this

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seriously the most intense thing I've

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ever done in my life and I did it

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at the age of 59.

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and and I go out and I I sit I'm by

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myself it's just me and and uh our

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security people

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and I I sit down on this bench uh doing

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everything I can to get oxygen in me and

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and come through this

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but it was an Awakening

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and I I went down the stairs and uh I

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sat on this rock

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uh next to to the bent pyramid and I'm

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once in a lifetime experience is is

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starting here and I'm looking out across

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the desert and in front of me about a

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mile away is the Red Pyramid and I'm

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looking at it I'm sitting on this rock

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I'm thinking about this spiritual

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experience that I just went through in

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the bent pyramid

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and

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I I I can't I can't put it into words

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and you're sitting on I'm sitting on a

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rock that has been sitting here for at

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least five thousand years five thousand

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years

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and I'm looking across this undisturbed

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desert it's just just sand dunes in

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front of me with the bent pyramid or the

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The Red Pyramid in front of me

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and it was just me and my thoughts

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and that's how I spent my 59th birthday

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was one spiritual experience after

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another

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physically

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I tested myself

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and we continued to do that every single

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00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:52,320
day coming back I was walking through

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the airport and I put my body we all did

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I wasn't the only one

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00:32:02,810 --> 00:31:59,159
through intense stress

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and when I got back now here we are

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today is the 18th

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um today and yesterday were the first

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days where

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I felt at one that that was physically

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00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:18,600
okay it's like running a marathon

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every single day for a week we did that

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many steps that much walking and these

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temples are huge and everything was just

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spiritual

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and today here I am with uh our

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1700th show

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and I'm spending it with you and I am so

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thankful for my life

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for my friends for my family for

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everything

553
00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:48,899
and and it's just been an insane two

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weeks I just I just I I don't know how I

555
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,960
don't know how life gets any better and

556
00:32:58,909 --> 00:32:56,399
I wanted to share that with all of you

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thank you for being here and we're gonna

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00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:00,779
have a great show tonight Tony rathman

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is with us and like I said we're gonna

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do Halloween

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for the rest of the month all the way

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through to the ex one year anniversary

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Arsenal and I would like to welcome back

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Tony man how you doing I'm doing great

666
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Jimmy thanks for having me you know it's

667
00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:38,940
it's it's Halloween or coming up on

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Halloween it's October being a

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Paranormal Investigator there's not a

670
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better time in the world yeah man and

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and it's you know 1700 shows in the can

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and and you're my guest on on this very

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special night it's an honor and a

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privilege my man thank you so much no

675
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thank you thank you

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00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:00,960
is Halloween Tony

677
00:40:04,609 --> 00:40:03,540
is Halloween the best holiday of the

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00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:04,619
year

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00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:07,680
I guess it depends on what uh what your

680
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:10,619
interests are but yeah absolutely yeah

681
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:14,880
yeah exactly it's it's it's such a cool

682
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:17,040
when I was a kid

683
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um and I'm just curious if you were the

684
00:40:24,349 --> 00:40:21,480
same way Christmas was great love

685
00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:24,359
Thanksgiving right Fourth of July yeah

686
00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:27,240
it's all cool Easter's got its thing

687
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:31,560
right Halloween Man Halloween Just rocks

688
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and and for me it's always been that way

689
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:36,780
has it been that way for you absolutely

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I mean you as a kid you get to dress up

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you can be any kind of character you

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want it's your it's your day and your

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night to be somebody that you're not

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something you think about something that

695
00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:51,660
you want to be and kids love that kids

696
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:53,820
love getting to take on a role that

697
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they're not normally involved in and for

698
00:41:01,490 --> 00:40:59,160
at least one day get to experience kind

699
00:41:04,130 --> 00:41:01,500
of that what that would be like did you

700
00:41:06,829 --> 00:41:04,140
do the same thing uh I'm sure it must

701
00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:06,839
have been the same in every city and

702
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:08,940
town in America

703
00:41:13,849 --> 00:41:11,400
um did you guys hey man

704
00:41:16,210 --> 00:41:13,859
over on Cedar Street they got the good

705
00:41:17,770 --> 00:41:16,220
candy right

706
00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:17,780
absolutely

707
00:41:23,390 --> 00:41:20,520
you were running around in you know late

708
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,400
70s early 80s mass that would absolutely

709
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:25,200
keep you from breathing you couldn't

710
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,420
turn your head without it twisting on

711
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:29,760
you the the costumes are much better

712
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:32,640
today they look better they wear better

713
00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:35,760
but absolutely everybody on the street

714
00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:37,800
knew the house has given away the good

715
00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:39,720
stuff and you there were times we would

716
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:41,820
switch costumes and go back a second

717
00:41:48,530 --> 00:41:46,859
time to get more of it it uh okay I I'm

718
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,540
just curious

719
00:41:53,089 --> 00:41:50,880
what was your favorite candy I'll

720
00:41:56,210 --> 00:41:53,099
disclose mine but what was yours

721
00:41:58,510 --> 00:41:56,220
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups yeah okay all

722
00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:58,520
right I guess I'm not planting a flag

723
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:00,900
on that one

724
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:04,200
um and what was your least favorite

725
00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:07,680
candy corn yep there you go okay yeah

726
00:42:12,849 --> 00:42:09,720
you and I are cut from the same cloth I

727
00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:12,859
was not a big fan though of a Milky Way

728
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,260
nah nah you know I would find some

729
00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:18,720
sucker uh that loved Milky Way and I

730
00:42:25,970 --> 00:42:23,700
trade right yeah candy corn today tastes

731
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:25,980
better to me but when I was a kid

732
00:42:32,750 --> 00:42:29,760
nah man no I'm okay with it now but uh

733
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,760
it's really funny it it's um it's it's

734
00:42:37,370 --> 00:42:34,560
not it's pure sugar

735
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:37,380
right it's the fakiest fake thing but I

736
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:38,700
don't know why man

737
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:42,660
it's not so bad today it's so the taste

738
00:42:48,530 --> 00:42:44,339
grows on you

739
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:48,540
now uh here's uh here's another weird

740
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:49,440
thing

741
00:42:59,530 --> 00:42:54,720
uh for me and uh a Halloween

742
00:43:02,990 --> 00:42:59,540
you would see the devil costumes right

743
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:03,000
witches ghost

744
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,460
um and then always there's always Disney

745
00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:08,640
characters even even back in the 70s and

746
00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:11,220
then you have this like innocent side of

747
00:43:17,089 --> 00:43:13,740
it and then we have the traditional

748
00:43:20,750 --> 00:43:17,099
stuff right the uh the jack-o-lanterns

749
00:43:21,550 --> 00:43:20,760
and the Harvest Moon that that side of

750
00:43:33,950 --> 00:43:21,560
it

751
00:43:35,930 --> 00:43:33,960
don't think was there originally

752
00:43:38,809 --> 00:43:35,940
I think a lot of it has to do with

753
00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:38,819
Hollywood with the types of horror films

754
00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:40,920
that you know got released starting

755
00:43:48,109 --> 00:43:44,460
probably late 80s early 90s that whole

756
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:48,119
genre that devil the demon the whole

757
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:50,460
terminology that went along with that

758
00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:53,520
got portrayed in in half the horror

759
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,760
movies uh television shows and so people

760
00:44:00,829 --> 00:43:58,800
picked up on that and you know Halloween

761
00:44:05,450 --> 00:44:00,839
turned to that

762
00:44:08,569 --> 00:44:05,460
more Sinister devilish type of costume

763
00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:08,579
and you know horror Fanatics love that

764
00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:10,740
kind of thing and so those costumes

765
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:11,940
that's what they wore and it still

766
00:44:15,650 --> 00:44:13,560
happens today

767
00:44:18,170 --> 00:44:15,660
somebody just said what about Pixie

768
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,180
Sticks I forgot about Pixie Sticks oh

769
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,880
those were good man those were real good

770
00:44:25,690 --> 00:44:22,560
especially when you got the one that was

771
00:44:28,730 --> 00:44:25,700
like two feet long yeah

772
00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:28,740
let's go right

773
00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:30,599
they get all wet on the end and get

774
00:44:36,290 --> 00:44:33,960
clogged up you'd have to shoot yeah yeah

775
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:36,300
bite it off yeah I missed that today see

776
00:44:40,609 --> 00:44:38,940
do they still make those they do they're

777
00:44:42,349 --> 00:44:40,619
they're hard to find but they do still

778
00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:42,359
make them I've seen them out there yeah

779
00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:45,240
pixie sticks we could do a whole show on

780
00:44:51,770 --> 00:44:48,839
on Halloween candy and and it it so and

781
00:44:55,069 --> 00:44:51,780
I noticed this trend

782
00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:55,079
um over the last I'm gonna go five to

783
00:45:00,010 --> 00:44:56,339
seven years

784
00:45:02,569 --> 00:45:00,020
lots of alien costumes

785
00:45:05,329 --> 00:45:02,579
have you have you noticed you know that

786
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:05,339
you know little E.T lots of alien

787
00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:08,280
costumes I don't ever remember growing

788
00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:10,500
up seeing

789
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:12,180
um and and

790
00:45:18,829 --> 00:45:15,900
ET alien costume anywhere and now it's

791
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,839
it's pretty trendy you're absolutely

792
00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:20,880
right but it follows the same genre I

793
00:45:26,290 --> 00:45:23,099
mean people who

794
00:45:29,390 --> 00:45:26,300
thoroughly believe that UFOs exist

795
00:45:31,490 --> 00:45:29,400
extraterrestrials exist Society start

796
00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:31,500
you know in the last 15 years there was

797
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:33,060
more and more information that was being

798
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,440
released then you had the government

799
00:45:39,170 --> 00:45:36,960
releasing stuff saying hey we have video

800
00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:39,180
of unidentified objects we don't know

801
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,220
what this is and admitting to it even

802
00:45:44,690 --> 00:45:43,440
though that anybody researching it knew

803
00:45:49,069 --> 00:45:44,700
that was the case

804
00:45:51,890 --> 00:45:49,079
years prior to them doing that but it

805
00:45:53,569 --> 00:45:51,900
changes that level of acceptance and so

806
00:45:55,010 --> 00:45:53,579
people would see those costumes out and

807
00:45:56,809 --> 00:45:55,020
be like oh that's great I'm going to be

808
00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:56,819
I'm going to be an alien or I'm and

809
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:00,060
people didn't didn't uh wrinkle up their

810
00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:02,700
nose or or give strange looks at it

811
00:46:08,089 --> 00:46:06,180
because it's it's accepted just the same

812
00:46:10,370 --> 00:46:08,099
thing as far as ghosts and spirits

813
00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:10,380
people have seen evidence of it they

814
00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:12,420
know they exist

815
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,000
I'm gonna do one more candy reference

816
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:17,520
somebody just said bitter honey

817
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:20,880
I I haven't I haven't thought about that

818
00:46:28,569 --> 00:46:25,200
in 40 years I love bitter I've I lost

819
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:28,579
like eight teeth uh to bit of honey

820
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,920
they were great until they got hard yeah

821
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:34,319
no when you unwrapped them and you could

822
00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:36,180
literally snap it in half and there was

823
00:46:41,329 --> 00:46:38,700
no twisting or softness to it it lost

824
00:46:44,030 --> 00:46:41,339
its appeal but they were good they were

825
00:46:46,490 --> 00:46:44,040
real good and they they were bars and

826
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:46,500
they had that wrapper In Between the

827
00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:53,089
I know they don't make those anymore

828
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,040
there's no way bit of honey I haven't

829
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,040
seen them in years so I don't know okay

830
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:02,400
anyway enough of uh man you guys you

831
00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:05,220
gotta stop let's switch it's the chat

832
00:47:08,750 --> 00:47:06,500
room

833
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:08,760
all they do

834
00:47:13,609 --> 00:47:11,460
is smoke weed that's how that's what

835
00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:13,619
this chat room does and so we're

836
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,240
supposed to be talking about ghosts it's

837
00:47:20,809 --> 00:47:18,000
Halloween Tony start talking about candy

838
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:20,819
and that's it that's it we are gonna be

839
00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:23,640
oh bit of honey still made

840
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:32,510
at what point

841
00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:34,140
for you

842
00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:39,420
did the desire to go and Chase

843
00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:43,859
ghost voices what did was this something

844
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:47,160
that started very young and and and what

845
00:47:54,670 --> 00:47:49,560
what what happened

846
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:54,680
well it was my wife that made it happen

847
00:48:01,569 --> 00:47:58,319
she normally you know on Valentine's Day

848
00:48:04,550 --> 00:48:01,579
and if this happened Valentine's Day

849
00:48:06,349 --> 00:48:04,560
2010. you know the ghost shows were out

850
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:06,359
she loved watching them she'd always say

851
00:48:10,609 --> 00:48:07,980
to me you gotta watch this with me this

852
00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:10,619
is so cool well I'd sit there for about

853
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:12,300
three minutes and then I'd look at her

854
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,280
and I'd say you realize this is

855
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:17,040
entertainment this is television none of

856
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:18,960
this exists that was my thought process

857
00:48:25,069 --> 00:48:22,400
now growing up my father was a physicist

858
00:48:27,950 --> 00:48:25,079
chemistry and physical science

859
00:48:30,530 --> 00:48:27,960
instructor so whenever I ask questions

860
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:30,540
as a kid I got scientific answers why is

861
00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:32,220
the sky blue oh because the sunlight

862
00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:34,380
shines through the water droplets you

863
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:36,780
know so your ghosts and stuff didn't

864
00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:39,960
really come up in those explanations but

865
00:48:44,450 --> 00:48:42,180
it was Valentine's Day she said I want

866
00:48:46,849 --> 00:48:44,460
to go ghost hunting I had two choices

867
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,859
taker or have her mad at me till next

868
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:49,680
Valentine's Day so she had me trapped I

869
00:48:54,050 --> 00:48:51,900
said okay we went

870
00:48:56,569 --> 00:48:54,060
she had fun that was all I cared about

871
00:48:58,250 --> 00:48:56,579
it wasn't until we got back that she

872
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,260
started reviewing

873
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:00,480
the pictures the video the recordings

874
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:03,839
and she had stuff on there she had

875
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,180
voices I couldn't explain things in the

876
00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:08,160
pictures I could not explain this was

877
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:10,740
our first time ever doing it on our own

878
00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:12,420
and trust me we made a ton of mistakes

879
00:49:16,010 --> 00:49:14,520
but that's how you learn

880
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,020
but

881
00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:18,720
for months I tried to come up with

882
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:21,960
reasonable rational explanations why

883
00:49:26,569 --> 00:49:24,480
this was occurring where these voices

884
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,579
were coming from and I couldn't do it

885
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:28,800
and it really started to annoy me

886
00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:30,900
because I thought this should be simple

887
00:49:34,250 --> 00:49:32,339
to figure out

888
00:49:36,109 --> 00:49:34,260
so I said they were let's go back let's

889
00:49:37,490 --> 00:49:36,119
see what happens let's see if I can

890
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:37,500
figure out hey there was a shadow

891
00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:40,020
casting from the light or you know we

892
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,700
were picking up noise from somebody in

893
00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:44,160
one of the other rooms while I couldn't

894
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,440
explain any of it and we had more

895
00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:48,720
evidence from that time and the time

896
00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:51,540
after and the time after and it just

897
00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:55,380
began to grow and the thrill of having a

898
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,060
voice come out of nowhere

899
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:00,240
that was both intelligent and would give

900
00:50:07,130 --> 00:50:03,660
a response that was relevant to both

901
00:50:09,650 --> 00:50:07,140
timing and frequency meaning it came

902
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,660
right after the question I asked and the

903
00:50:16,370 --> 00:50:12,000
answer given was relevant to the

904
00:50:18,290 --> 00:50:16,380
question I asked that blew my mind so we

905
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:18,300
just kept doing it and then we expanded

906
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:20,400
and we expanded throughout all of

907
00:50:26,450 --> 00:50:23,040
Arizona and then we went on to Nevada

908
00:50:27,950 --> 00:50:26,460
California and then across the entire

909
00:50:30,290 --> 00:50:27,960
country and then we started going

910
00:50:32,530 --> 00:50:30,300
outside to the country we've been in the

911
00:50:36,589 --> 00:50:32,540
Philippines we've investigated in Japan

912
00:50:40,970 --> 00:50:36,599
and the evidence just kept coming

913
00:50:44,450 --> 00:50:40,980
that's how I got hooked and what about

914
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:44,460
um the electronics uh side of this do

915
00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:46,260
you have an engineering background uh

916
00:50:53,870 --> 00:50:48,780
just for everybody so you understand

917
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:53,880
uh when I first met uh Tony and Cherie I

918
00:51:00,589 --> 00:50:56,480
got to I you know I got to see the gear

919
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:00,599
and I'd I I was blown I'm a Gearhead

920
00:51:05,569 --> 00:51:03,240
obviously right I I don't want

921
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:05,579
Electronics right I'm I'm I think I have

922
00:51:11,390 --> 00:51:09,240
a grip on things and and apparently I

923
00:51:13,730 --> 00:51:11,400
don't because I went up and I saw

924
00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:13,740
everything that you guys brought for the

925
00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:15,420
the the Ghost Hunt that we were doing

926
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,300
together and you had everything under

927
00:51:24,410 --> 00:51:20,960
the sun and then you started to explain

928
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:24,420
and tell me that a lot of this you

929
00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:26,760
design and build yourself and we'll get

930
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:29,220
to that but do you have an engineering a

931
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:32,640
double e or something no I I worked in

932
00:51:36,170 --> 00:51:34,680
an electronic shop when I was a teenager

933
00:51:40,730 --> 00:51:36,180
going through High School

934
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:40,740
and I would help repair TVs and broken

935
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:43,200
radios and you know it was kind of

936
00:51:49,069 --> 00:51:44,880
minor stuff but it was enough

937
00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:49,079
information from that to allow me to

938
00:51:56,690 --> 00:51:52,380
pull apart a Spirit Box like an sb7 or

939
00:51:59,089 --> 00:51:56,700
an sb11 see what was inside know the the

940
00:52:00,410 --> 00:51:59,099
circuitry and the mechanics that were

941
00:52:03,290 --> 00:52:00,420
operating it

942
00:52:05,930 --> 00:52:03,300
and then it was basically a Learning

943
00:52:08,030 --> 00:52:05,940
lesson after that to figure out what did

944
00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:08,040
I want to modify how did I want to try

945
00:52:12,410 --> 00:52:10,260
to improve it and then of course talking

946
00:52:14,510 --> 00:52:12,420
to friends as well that that would build

947
00:52:16,130 --> 00:52:14,520
Spirit boxes and saying okay how does

948
00:52:17,630 --> 00:52:16,140
this how does this function what do I

949
00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:17,640
need to do so it was a learning

950
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:19,380
experience but yeah then I was able to

951
00:52:24,650 --> 00:52:22,140
start creating my own stuff and stuff

952
00:52:25,970 --> 00:52:24,660
that took away some of the concerns that

953
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:25,980
I had with stuff that you could just go

954
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,380
out and purchase

955
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:31,440
um no not everything is caught by a

956
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:35,280
Spirit Box uh some things are are just

957
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:38,400
live in the room I mean these these uh

958
00:52:45,410 --> 00:52:43,440
these voices that uh I oh okay let's go

959
00:52:46,130 --> 00:52:45,420
ahead and tell the story uh with you and

960
00:52:51,049 --> 00:52:46,140
I

961
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:51,059
we were we're on the Queen Mary and we

962
00:52:59,930 --> 00:52:56,880
were in a state room a suite uh uh below

963
00:53:03,829 --> 00:52:59,940
decks well I'll uh the Winston Churchill

964
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,839
Suite right right okay so we had about

965
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,240
about 10 people in this room I'm

966
00:53:12,109 --> 00:53:09,119
guessing but it was around 10 people and

967
00:53:14,809 --> 00:53:12,119
I think Susan was with us

968
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:14,819
um and and of course you and your wife

969
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:17,760
we had a camera crew we had uh a sound

970
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:20,880
uh crew and I think three cameras and

971
00:53:25,970 --> 00:53:23,520
Tony is facing me

972
00:53:30,349 --> 00:53:25,980
so he's sitting across from me

973
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:30,359
and to my right to Tony's left uh are

974
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:33,660
three cameramen and the sound guy with

975
00:53:39,530 --> 00:53:36,660
the boom mic right okay so they're over

976
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:39,540
here and we've got the The State Room is

977
00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:43,440
totally quiet the everybody else is to

978
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,740
my left so Tony and I are sitting at the

979
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,240
end is what I'm saying okay we're

980
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:51,119
sitting at the end with the with the the

981
00:53:57,049 --> 00:53:54,960
camera crew to our right Tony's left

982
00:54:01,250 --> 00:53:57,059
dead silent

983
00:54:02,329 --> 00:54:01,260
when this voice just happened and I

984
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:02,339
heard it

985
00:54:09,290 --> 00:54:05,520
I I thought it came from above me uh to

986
00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:09,300
my right and it was a female voice

987
00:54:13,730 --> 00:54:11,819
and that went

988
00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:13,740
hmm

989
00:54:17,809 --> 00:54:15,180
just like that

990
00:54:21,530 --> 00:54:17,819
and I jump

991
00:54:23,690 --> 00:54:21,540
and I I I turn on and I look at Tony

992
00:54:25,490 --> 00:54:23,700
Tony's looking at me

993
00:54:29,089 --> 00:54:25,500
and we're both like

994
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:29,099
and and I turned to the sound guy

995
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:32,220
I said was that you and he goes no I

996
00:54:37,210 --> 00:54:34,260
went no it wasn't him

997
00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:37,220
and you

998
00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:41,700
reacted over your shoulder but but what

999
00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:43,319
did you hear and where did you think it

1000
00:54:49,309 --> 00:54:45,720
was coming from because I heard it from

1001
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:49,319
above me over here but you turned around

1002
00:54:53,329 --> 00:54:50,880
and looked in the opposite direction

1003
00:54:58,130 --> 00:54:53,339
over your shoulder what did you hear

1004
00:55:00,170 --> 00:54:58,140
well I heard the exact same female hmm

1005
00:55:03,049 --> 00:55:00,180
but I thought it came from behind me

1006
00:55:05,690 --> 00:55:03,059
where you were looking out across the

1007
00:55:08,569 --> 00:55:05,700
room I was looking behind my shoulder

1008
00:55:10,609 --> 00:55:08,579
because that to me is where it sounded

1009
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:10,619
like it came from but that was a wall

1010
00:55:15,710 --> 00:55:13,200
behind you by the way you were against

1011
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,720
the wall correct yeah it was on the edge

1012
00:55:19,490 --> 00:55:18,000
of the sofa that was in there but there

1013
00:55:22,010 --> 00:55:19,500
wasn't there wasn't much room for

1014
00:55:23,930 --> 00:55:22,020
something to be behind me but that was

1015
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:23,940
the coolest thing about that experience

1016
00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:27,119
is because that's what's considered

1017
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,880
um a direct voice response meaning we

1018
00:55:34,609 --> 00:55:31,920
didn't hear that through any type of

1019
00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:34,619
Spirit Box we didn't catch that on a

1020
00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:37,020
recorder and hear it after we heard that

1021
00:55:40,910 --> 00:55:38,760
with our own ears

1022
00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:40,920
and like you said all the cameramen that

1023
00:55:46,370 --> 00:55:44,280
were over there were all men and have

1024
00:55:49,370 --> 00:55:46,380
much deeper voices than this female

1025
00:55:51,530 --> 00:55:49,380
voice that came out of nowhere and

1026
00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:51,540
that's why we struggled to figure out

1027
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:53,640
which direction it came from because

1028
00:55:58,490 --> 00:55:56,400
when that happens it's all encompassing

1029
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,500
it fills the whole room and direction is

1030
00:56:03,710 --> 00:56:00,240
really hard to pinpoint it's really hard

1031
00:56:08,089 --> 00:56:03,720
it blew my mind and it was loud

1032
00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:08,099
that I mean that's that was no hmm you

1033
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:09,720
know what though I've thought about this

1034
00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:11,040
a lot

1035
00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:15,059
it was a British it had an accent it did

1036
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:17,880
I don't know why I picture like it was

1037
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:22,440
it felt like a a British I know it

1038
00:56:28,130 --> 00:56:25,079
sounds funny but that's that's that's

1039
00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:28,140
what it reminded me of well I'll agree

1040
00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:29,700
with that and what you just said let me

1041
00:56:34,730 --> 00:56:31,380
comment on that because that's one of

1042
00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:34,740
the reasons after 13 years well coming

1043
00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:38,339
up on 13 years of of doing this is why

1044
00:56:43,730 --> 00:56:40,800
we decided to focus on communication

1045
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:43,740
because the amount of information that

1046
00:56:51,470 --> 00:56:47,520
we can acquire from an EVP or a Spirit

1047
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:51,480
Box I can tell if it's male or female I

1048
00:56:57,650 --> 00:56:54,960
can tell if it's a child I can tell if

1049
00:56:58,910 --> 00:56:57,660
there's an accent like you just said I

1050
00:57:01,790 --> 00:56:58,920
can tell if they're speaking a different

1051
00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:01,800
language I can tell their emotional

1052
00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:04,440
state are they happy are they upset are

1053
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:07,500
they angry all of that information I can

1054
00:57:12,650 --> 00:57:10,380
discern before even hearing what was

1055
00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:12,660
said and that to me is irreplaceable

1056
00:57:17,210 --> 00:57:14,760
from any other piece of equipment it

1057
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:17,220
changed me profoundly

1058
00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:21,359
um in that we all watch ghost hunting

1059
00:57:26,690 --> 00:57:23,339
shows I love them I I love those

1060
00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:26,700
paranormal ghost hunting shows and uh

1061
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,180
but that night when I was walking uh you

1062
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:32,880
and I uh I was alone you caught up to me

1063
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:35,280
but we're we had this big empty parking

1064
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:38,520
lot if you remember is huge I do and I

1065
00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:41,520
was walking to my car going I Heard a

1066
00:57:46,970 --> 00:57:44,520
Voice you know I was so happy I mean I I

1067
00:57:49,370 --> 00:57:46,980
couldn't believe

1068
00:57:51,890 --> 00:57:49,380
what had happened and you walked up to

1069
00:57:54,010 --> 00:57:51,900
me and said thank you I was like dude I

1070
00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:54,020
threw you the biggest bro hug

1071
00:57:58,670 --> 00:57:56,760
yeah but it was it was one of those

1072
00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:58,680
experiences that when you you're not

1073
00:58:02,569 --> 00:58:00,599
expecting it and it comes out of nowhere

1074
00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:02,579
like that and I think that was probably

1075
00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:04,740
one of your first real true experiences

1076
00:58:08,450 --> 00:58:07,020
where this voice just appeared and you

1077
00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:08,460
could hear it with your own ears that

1078
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,500
doesn't happen often for that to occur

1079
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:12,960
was was fantastic yeah it was amazing

1080
00:58:18,290 --> 00:58:15,599
which is my next question how when you

1081
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:18,300
say it doesn't happen that often uh how

1082
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,359
rare is it to have uh what's the what

1083
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:24,000
there's a term for it

1084
00:58:30,170 --> 00:58:27,839
well the the the calculation on a scale

1085
00:58:32,450 --> 00:58:30,180
from you know one to 100 of how often or

1086
00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:32,460
percentage how often that happens I'd

1087
00:58:38,510 --> 00:58:35,940
say it's probably five percent at best

1088
00:58:40,370 --> 00:58:38,520
at best

1089
00:58:44,510 --> 00:58:40,380
what what

1090
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:44,520
do you think is the projector

1091
00:58:51,289 --> 00:58:48,079
okay in that this

1092
00:58:52,609 --> 00:58:51,299
we've got vocal cords right so this is

1093
00:58:56,890 --> 00:58:52,619
physical

1094
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:56,900
but that sound was generated

1095
00:59:03,710 --> 00:59:01,200
by something right to move the air how

1096
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:03,720
how how is it generated

1097
00:59:07,849 --> 00:59:05,040
well

1098
00:59:09,950 --> 00:59:07,859
that's a good question and do we know

1099
00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:09,960
for sure that answer I'm going to tell

1100
00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:12,359
you right now we don't but I can tell

1101
00:59:19,069 --> 00:59:15,660
you that it does not follow physics it

1102
00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:19,079
is not a typical sound wave that is

1103
00:59:23,809 --> 00:59:21,180
vibrating through the air and the reason

1104
00:59:25,970 --> 00:59:23,819
I know that is because we can put out

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00:59:28,430 --> 00:59:25,980
three recorders a foot from each other

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00:59:32,089 --> 00:59:28,440
have them all running at the same time

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00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:32,099
and get an EVP on only one of the

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00:59:38,089 --> 00:59:34,880
recorders if that was a true

1109
00:59:40,370 --> 00:59:38,099
sound wave all three of those recorders

1110
00:59:44,770 --> 00:59:40,380
would have captured that which means

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00:59:49,130 --> 00:59:44,780
it's not using a sound wave to transmit

1112
00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:49,140
to the recorders now the fact that we

1113
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:51,780
heard this one with our own ears changes

1114
00:59:58,609 --> 00:59:56,400
that though because our ears operate on

1115
01:00:01,849 --> 00:59:58,619
sound waves traveling through the air

1116
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:01,859
and pick them up so that case is a

1117
01:00:06,170 --> 01:00:04,079
little bit different because it's not

1118
01:00:08,510 --> 01:00:06,180
just captured on the recorder we heard

1119
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:08,520
that with our own ears and so did other

1120
01:00:15,650 --> 01:00:12,960
people so there then has to be some

1121
01:00:17,089 --> 01:00:15,660
molecular change in the sound wave to

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01:00:19,789 --> 01:00:17,099
create that

1123
01:00:21,710 --> 01:00:19,799
physical presence of the sound for us to

1124
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:21,720
hear it with our ears and that can only

1125
01:00:28,010 --> 01:00:24,960
be done by some type of energy transfer

1126
01:00:30,650 --> 01:00:28,020
and that would be my best case scenario

1127
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:30,660
answer yeah I mean you know yeah that

1128
01:00:37,849 --> 01:00:33,359
the follicles in your ear they pick up

1129
01:00:40,130 --> 01:00:37,859
the vibration uh the molecules in in the

1130
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,140
atmosphere are vibrating the sound wave

1131
01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:42,480
comes through vibrates and that's

1132
01:00:46,849 --> 01:00:44,220
transmitted with the nerves into our

1133
01:00:50,109 --> 01:00:46,859
brain and we hear something

1134
01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:50,119
well something has got for us to hear it

1135
01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:53,880
something is moving the air right and

1136
01:00:59,390 --> 01:00:56,760
and it's it's something is is there

1137
01:01:02,270 --> 01:00:59,400
there's got to be a source of you know

1138
01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:02,280
where it's generated from it was an

1139
01:01:07,309 --> 01:01:04,260
incredible experience for me to go

1140
01:01:10,910 --> 01:01:07,319
through uh to hear it and to react and

1141
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:10,920
to look and the oh man yeah totally

1142
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:12,780
special totally special well let's take

1143
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:15,680
a break now we have uh tonight everybody

1144
01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:18,480
uh we've got a very uh special

1145
01:01:23,690 --> 01:01:21,900
presentation I've got a bunch of EVPs uh

1146
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:23,700
that Tony has sent I've got a bunch of

1147
01:01:29,450 --> 01:01:26,160
video uh files

1148
01:01:31,849 --> 01:01:29,460
um I I don't know how many uh we have

1149
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:31,859
here but it is a lot we've got a lot of

1150
01:01:36,349 --> 01:01:33,780
video and we're going to be going

1151
01:01:39,289 --> 01:01:36,359
through all of that tonight it is night

1152
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:39,299
one of the our Halloween month Our Guest

1153
01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:42,720
is Tony rathman and he's a host of

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01:01:47,650 --> 01:01:46,020
entity voices over on the X with me what

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night of the week do you broadcast

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Monday night 9 p.m Eastern 6 p.m Pacific

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um every Monday and we focus on both

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well-known and coming up and coming

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paranormal investigators and show some

1160
01:02:06,650 --> 01:02:05,220
fantastic evidence captures and we

1161
01:02:09,770 --> 01:02:06,660
discussed and review

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01:02:12,289 --> 01:02:09,780
every aspect of it every Monday night

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01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:12,299
yeah every Monday night open up for Fade

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to Black that's what I'm talking about

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01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:15,960
let's take a break right here Tony

1166
01:02:20,990 --> 01:02:18,240
rathman is our guest I'm your host Jimmy

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01:02:22,670 --> 01:02:21,000
church this is Fade to Black stay with

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us we'll be right back after this short

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break

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01:07:42,650 --> 01:07:39,720
Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm your host

1267
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:42,660
Jimmy church tonight Tony rathman entity

1268
01:07:47,450 --> 01:07:45,599
voices paranormal investigations

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01:07:50,270 --> 01:07:47,460
and uh

1270
01:07:56,829 --> 01:07:53,329
I just got back from Egypt

1271
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:56,839
have you been to Egypt just yes or no no

1272
01:08:05,809 --> 01:08:01,200
dude you take your gear over there

1273
01:08:12,049 --> 01:08:09,470
oh I can only imagine what you would

1274
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:12,059
capture in some of those temples uh I I

1275
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:15,359
it it I mean it's just everywhere so

1276
01:08:21,530 --> 01:08:18,719
anyway we won't talk about I I I won't

1277
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:21,540
shut up uh if we get started on Egypt

1278
01:08:28,669 --> 01:08:24,239
but I was just thinking about that a

1279
01:08:36,050 --> 01:08:28,679
paranormal investigation at dendara holy

1280
01:08:42,669 --> 01:08:39,169
000 years of of things uh still looking

1281
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:42,679
for home right just wandering the Sands

1282
01:08:48,590 --> 01:08:46,799
the history the energy that's there I

1283
01:08:49,610 --> 01:08:48,600
mean it would be it would be off the

1284
01:08:51,650 --> 01:08:49,620
charts

1285
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:51,660
it was just one experience after another

1286
01:08:56,570 --> 01:08:54,000
there okay so

1287
01:08:59,169 --> 01:08:56,580
um we've got a ton of stuff to go

1288
01:09:02,990 --> 01:08:59,179
through and you do this to me every time

1289
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:03,000
Jimmy everything uh we've got a lot of

1290
01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:06,239
files to go through tonight and um uh I

1291
01:09:09,470 --> 01:09:07,620
don't know where you want to start if

1292
01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:09,480
you want to start with audio if you want

1293
01:09:14,510 --> 01:09:12,660
to fire up some of this video yeah I

1294
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:14,520
think there I think I sent you all video

1295
01:09:20,030 --> 01:09:17,520
but start with the EVPs because the the

1296
01:09:23,150 --> 01:09:20,040
drv or direct radio voice will need just

1297
01:09:25,130 --> 01:09:23,160
a slight introduction as to exactly what

1298
01:09:26,990 --> 01:09:25,140
that is and how it functions wait a

1299
01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:27,000
minute now I've got okay hold on a

1300
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:29,819
minute now stop all of this is video

1301
01:09:37,010 --> 01:09:32,400
I've got video on two screens

1302
01:09:39,530 --> 01:09:37,020
wait I I thought these were EVPs they

1303
01:09:43,550 --> 01:09:39,540
are but they're in video format

1304
01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:43,560
oh no how okay all right well okay I've

1305
01:09:49,610 --> 01:09:47,100
got they don't okay Tony stop don't

1306
01:09:51,370 --> 01:09:49,620
confuse me this is live radio don't

1307
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:51,380
throw me off my game

1308
01:09:58,130 --> 01:09:55,920
I think I've got audio over here and

1309
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:58,140
video over here

1310
01:10:02,090 --> 01:10:00,239
okay so let's just go with that just go

1311
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:02,100
with me just go all right all right

1312
01:10:06,830 --> 01:10:04,560
because once I hit play on one of these

1313
01:10:09,169 --> 01:10:06,840
okay and let me see something here let

1314
01:10:12,169 --> 01:10:09,179
me make sure this is muted if this plays

1315
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:12,179
as a video file

1316
01:10:19,729 --> 01:10:18,470
okay

1317
01:10:22,669 --> 01:10:19,739
um

1318
01:10:24,169 --> 01:10:22,679
uh-huh

1319
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,179
okay

1320
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:26,640
and also

1321
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:29,520
there are okay we're gonna start over

1322
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:31,679
here on this screen because these are

1323
01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:33,840
ready to go

1324
01:10:40,330 --> 01:10:35,940
um I'm just gonna let everybody know

1325
01:10:44,090 --> 01:10:40,340
that Tony was right okay Tony Tony

1326
01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:44,100
was right and uh I'll figure it out okay

1327
01:10:52,910 --> 01:10:46,400
so let's go with uh

1328
01:10:54,890 --> 01:10:52,920
uh drv uh uh Ron Tony and and Bocce is

1329
01:10:56,810 --> 01:10:54,900
that what that says hold on if we're

1330
01:10:59,950 --> 01:10:56,820
gonna start with the drv let me let me

1331
01:11:03,590 --> 01:10:59,960
just give a real quick explanation sure

1332
01:11:07,370 --> 01:11:03,600
you've seen the evox you've heard the

1333
01:11:09,950 --> 01:11:07,380
the evox 2.0 where we made Spirit boxes

1334
01:11:12,970 --> 01:11:09,960
that didn't have the white noise we're

1335
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:12,980
completely silent unless they spoke

1336
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:16,159
drv is based off of

1337
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:20,640
Marcelo Bocce's work where beginning in

1338
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:24,000
the 60s he would use a world band radio

1339
01:11:30,770 --> 01:11:27,120
tune it to either a shortwave or a long

1340
01:11:31,930 --> 01:11:30,780
wave frequency with absolutely no radio

1341
01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:31,940
transmission

1342
01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:35,940
whatsoever just white noise

1343
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:38,580
then he would ask questions and he would

1344
01:11:44,689 --> 01:11:42,480
get answers now they tested him they

1345
01:11:47,149 --> 01:11:44,699
pulled the vacuum tubes he can they put

1346
01:11:51,410 --> 01:11:47,159
him in a faraday cage he continued to

1347
01:11:54,110 --> 01:11:51,420
get voices so this was fascinating and I

1348
01:11:56,930 --> 01:11:54,120
have to give credit to Ron yakavedi who

1349
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:56,940
taught me this he's also on on entity

1350
01:12:01,550 --> 01:11:58,800
voices paranormal evidence he's one of

1351
01:12:04,130 --> 01:12:01,560
my team members but he showed me how to

1352
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:04,140
do this how it works and what we've been

1353
01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:08,000
getting is just incredible

1354
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:12,060
and there's it doesn't scan radio so no

1355
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:13,679
one can say oh you're picking up a radio

1356
01:12:21,250 --> 01:12:16,800
station no nobody's transmitting radio

1357
01:12:23,930 --> 01:12:21,260
broadcasts on 14 400

1358
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:23,940
shortwave frequencies it's just there's

1359
01:12:29,570 --> 01:12:26,640
nothing there so

1360
01:12:33,250 --> 01:12:29,580
what happens is you take that white

1361
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:33,260
noise which white noise is basically

1362
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:37,920
all audio frequencies combined 20 Hertz

1363
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:42,239
to 20 000 Hertz they're all there 20 to

1364
01:12:48,130 --> 01:12:46,320
20 20 to 20K 20 right and they're all

1365
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:48,140
there at a constant

1366
01:12:55,550 --> 01:12:52,080
so what this does it's not a device it's

1367
01:12:57,169 --> 01:12:55,560
a method of taking that white noise and

1368
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,179
separating

1369
01:13:02,630 --> 01:12:59,760
the different frequencies within it

1370
01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:02,640
and when you separate it

1371
01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:07,260
voices appear and it is phenomenal and

1372
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,420
if you ask a question

1373
01:13:14,689 --> 01:13:12,239
you get answers and that's what you're

1374
01:13:16,669 --> 01:13:14,699
about to play but before you play the

1375
01:13:20,810 --> 01:13:16,679
one that says Ron play the one that says

1376
01:13:24,590 --> 01:13:20,820
Bocce first because bronze is a

1377
01:13:26,510 --> 01:13:24,600
is a connection to that one okay so

1378
01:13:30,290 --> 01:13:26,520
we'll do that one let me make sure I've

1379
01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:30,300
got it lined up it's this one here

1380
01:13:35,390 --> 01:13:32,100
um I'm gonna bring you down I'm gonna

1381
01:13:51,850 --> 01:13:35,400
just check the volume but uh let's see

1382
01:13:57,950 --> 01:13:54,169
Spirits can you please try to

1383
01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:57,960
communicate with us through this device

1384
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:11,350
who's watching

1385
01:14:16,970 --> 01:14:14,770
that was clear do you understand

1386
01:14:22,330 --> 01:14:16,980
are you keeping track of what we're

1387
01:14:22,340 --> 01:14:29,570
Marcelo can you see us

1388
01:14:29,580 --> 01:14:41,770
thank you foreign

1389
01:14:54,130 --> 01:14:44,689
it's working can you please try to

1390
01:15:02,149 --> 01:14:57,490
holy crap

1391
01:15:06,290 --> 01:15:04,189
okay

1392
01:15:08,350 --> 01:15:06,300
uh

1393
01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:08,360
wow

1394
01:15:15,229 --> 01:15:11,940
that was a conversation well that was

1395
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:15,239
what when we went out to the New York

1396
01:15:19,729 --> 01:15:16,980
area New Jersey area and did a four

1397
01:15:22,130 --> 01:15:19,739
Mansion tour with Ron Ron's been doing

1398
01:15:24,110 --> 01:15:22,140
this for a couple of years now and I

1399
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,120
brought my spirit boxes and I got great

1400
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:26,640
responses but it's always a word or two

1401
01:15:33,770 --> 01:15:30,239
maybe three if you're lucky he was

1402
01:15:37,970 --> 01:15:33,780
getting full sentences clear

1403
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:37,980
totally Audible and lengthy so I said

1404
01:15:42,590 --> 01:15:40,320
you have to show me how to do this well

1405
01:15:44,750 --> 01:15:42,600
what I sent for you tonight under direct

1406
01:15:47,630 --> 01:15:44,760
radio voice is

1407
01:15:50,090 --> 01:15:47,640
the first maybe three months of stuff

1408
01:15:53,630 --> 01:15:50,100
that came through but that one that you

1409
01:15:55,970 --> 01:15:53,640
played he said Bocce now could Bocce

1410
01:15:59,450 --> 01:15:55,980
actually have tuned in knowing he was

1411
01:16:02,689 --> 01:15:59,460
doing this from the 60s to the late 80s

1412
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:02,699
and you know his voice he said Bocce

1413
01:16:09,770 --> 01:16:06,719
very clear history said you know this is

1414
01:16:11,390 --> 01:16:09,780
your method do you have will you

1415
01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:11,400
communicate and then this voice comes

1416
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,100
out of nowhere in English I'd say glad

1417
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:16,800
to meet you yeah I'll say glad to meet

1418
01:16:21,950 --> 01:16:19,679
you wow man that that that's really cool

1419
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:21,960
I would do that all day long I wouldn't

1420
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,920
get any work done that that I I didn't

1421
01:16:31,370 --> 01:16:28,800
expect that I didn't expect that at all

1422
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:31,380
um and and kudos to Bocce uh to

1423
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:34,080
understand uh Cherie and her accent

1424
01:16:39,649 --> 01:16:36,900
right right well and he spoke in English

1425
01:16:41,930 --> 01:16:39,659
yeah his native language here was not

1426
01:16:43,550 --> 01:16:41,940
English but that shows you the power if

1427
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:43,560
that was truly him now granted I'm

1428
01:16:48,649 --> 01:16:47,040
making the assumption that it was but he

1429
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,659
spoke perfect English so they they've

1430
01:16:52,330 --> 01:16:50,159
got the ability to speak any language

1431
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:52,340
then apparently

1432
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:54,960
Cherie's Fearless isn't she

1433
01:17:02,270 --> 01:16:57,920
pretty much yeah pretty much yeah I mean

1434
01:17:06,169 --> 01:17:02,280
she's she she look how do I say this

1435
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:06,179
um I I I'm going to be polite she looks

1436
01:17:13,370 --> 01:17:11,040
like everybody's friend she's just you

1437
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:13,380
know she's just she's cute she's darling

1438
01:17:18,350 --> 01:17:14,880
she's nice

1439
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:18,360
Fearless man Fearless just absolutely

1440
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,320
Fearless she's is she the first one at a

1441
01:17:28,250 --> 01:17:24,239
ghost hunt is she walking in first let's

1442
01:17:30,830 --> 01:17:28,260
go yeah and in almost 13 years of doing

1443
01:17:33,950 --> 01:17:30,840
this the only place I've seen her

1444
01:17:36,110 --> 01:17:33,960
truly frightened was the Diplomat hotel

1445
01:17:38,930 --> 01:17:36,120
in Baguio City Philippines and that

1446
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,940
place was just crazy intense yeah but

1447
01:17:42,410 --> 01:17:40,560
other than that never seen her even

1448
01:17:45,050 --> 01:17:42,420
shudder

1449
01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:45,060
all right so now you want to go ahead

1450
01:17:50,330 --> 01:17:47,340
and do this uh the other one Tony and

1451
01:17:52,610 --> 01:17:50,340
Bocce yeah they're the one that says Ron

1452
01:17:56,450 --> 01:17:52,620
something Tony but let me just tell you

1453
01:17:59,450 --> 01:17:56,460
the backup so I captured that

1454
01:18:02,209 --> 01:17:59,460
two or three days before Ron captured

1455
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:02,219
what you're about to play and I had just

1456
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,320
started getting responses via direct

1457
01:18:08,990 --> 01:18:06,239
radio voice it took a little time to

1458
01:18:11,209 --> 01:18:09,000
learn how it works get it working

1459
01:18:14,330 --> 01:18:11,219
so him and I were having a conversation

1460
01:18:16,970 --> 01:18:14,340
about how these voices were were coming

1461
01:18:20,030 --> 01:18:16,980
in how they were being able to be picked

1462
01:18:21,229 --> 01:18:20,040
up by the software and where they were

1463
01:18:23,149 --> 01:18:21,239
coming from well we had about an hour

1464
01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:23,159
and a half conversation

1465
01:18:27,950 --> 01:18:25,679
two or three days later

1466
01:18:31,070 --> 01:18:27,960
my friend Ron recorded what you're about

1467
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:31,080
to play and after this happened my

1468
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,840
voices that I was getting escalated but

1469
01:18:42,350 --> 01:18:35,520
I'll let you play it and then we can

1470
01:19:19,729 --> 01:18:45,709
oh let me back it up there we go

1471
01:19:19,739 --> 01:19:23,149
what

1472
01:19:23,159 --> 01:19:27,950
is

1473
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:37,090
um

1474
01:19:42,370 --> 01:19:39,709
okay okay let me let me let me just

1475
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:42,380
pause that that is Crystal friggin clear

1476
01:19:46,910 --> 01:19:45,360
right that's what's so amazing about

1477
01:19:51,709 --> 01:19:46,920
this method

1478
01:20:03,610 --> 01:19:51,719
and full sentences wow man okay let's

1479
01:20:03,620 --> 01:20:08,110
Tommy's my friend

1480
01:20:15,169 --> 01:20:11,290
what's the stop man stop stop stop stop

1481
01:20:16,910 --> 01:20:15,179
that's insane and we're on opposite

1482
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:16,920
sides of the country I'm in Phoenix

1483
01:20:22,250 --> 01:20:20,159
Arizona he's in New Jersey right that

1484
01:20:25,070 --> 01:20:22,260
tells you that the whole time distance

1485
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:25,080
space none of that exists for Spirits

1486
01:20:29,630 --> 01:20:27,840
they literally communicated with me and

1487
01:20:32,750 --> 01:20:29,640
write to him

1488
01:20:40,910 --> 01:20:32,760
three thousand miles away wow okay let's

1489
01:20:40,920 --> 01:21:11,410
I would agree

1490
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:14,229
thank you

1491
01:21:28,330 --> 01:21:22,490
whoa

1492
01:21:33,050 --> 01:21:31,130
okay let me ask you this when do you

1493
01:21:35,450 --> 01:21:33,060
hear your name

1494
01:21:38,209 --> 01:21:35,460
right

1495
01:21:41,390 --> 01:21:38,219
um it followed with it you know watch my

1496
01:21:44,030 --> 01:21:41,400
back what goes through your mind

1497
01:21:46,970 --> 01:21:44,040
well a million things and then you know

1498
01:21:48,830 --> 01:21:46,980
like the comment watch my back

1499
01:21:51,770 --> 01:21:48,840
where's that coming from who is he

1500
01:21:55,490 --> 01:21:51,780
afraid of right right dangers are on the

1501
01:21:57,770 --> 01:21:55,500
other side but I think just after

1502
01:22:01,189 --> 01:21:57,780
experience this type of communication

1503
01:22:03,410 --> 01:22:01,199
for so long that what they're worried

1504
01:22:06,050 --> 01:22:03,420
about is that there's some sort of

1505
01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:06,060
universal rule about what they can say

1506
01:22:10,910 --> 01:22:09,540
and where that line hits because one of

1507
01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:10,920
the things Cherie and I always do is

1508
01:22:16,130 --> 01:22:13,500
push that line over and over and over to

1509
01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:16,140
see if we can get past it and they

1510
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:18,000
usually shut down stop talking they'll

1511
01:22:23,390 --> 01:22:20,880
say that's enough no more and uh just

1512
01:22:25,490 --> 01:22:23,400
quit but that's what I think they're

1513
01:22:27,410 --> 01:22:25,500
worried about is giving too much

1514
01:22:29,450 --> 01:22:27,420
information or crossing that line

1515
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,460
they're not supposed to now what what

1516
01:22:34,030 --> 01:22:31,440
what'd you make about that comment about

1517
01:22:36,830 --> 01:22:34,040
being arranged

1518
01:22:40,669 --> 01:22:36,840
that I'm still trying to figure out but

1519
01:22:43,010 --> 01:22:40,679
the evolving part and he's human yes who

1520
01:22:45,709 --> 01:22:43,020
am I speaking to right you know who's

1521
01:22:49,010 --> 01:22:45,719
answering if they're saying he's human

1522
01:22:52,010 --> 01:22:49,020
is it extraterrestrial is that possible

1523
01:22:53,330 --> 01:22:52,020
absolutely is it spiritual that's

1524
01:22:56,510 --> 01:22:53,340
another question paranormal

1525
01:22:58,330 --> 01:22:56,520
investigators don't have we don't know

1526
01:23:00,770 --> 01:22:58,340
it's Crystal Clear

1527
01:23:02,630 --> 01:23:00,780
wow wow

1528
01:23:05,290 --> 01:23:02,640
um all right look this this is too much

1529
01:23:08,090 --> 01:23:05,300
fun okay let's go

1530
01:23:11,689 --> 01:23:08,100
uh oh okay

1531
01:23:13,729 --> 01:23:11,699
this is the title of it so I think I

1532
01:23:15,770 --> 01:23:13,739
need some we need some explanation

1533
01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:15,780
before I fire this up

1534
01:23:21,410 --> 01:23:18,960
can you say rathman

1535
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:21,420
well of course for me to know they're

1536
01:23:26,570 --> 01:23:23,760
there I always want a response before I

1537
01:23:28,610 --> 01:23:26,580
get into asking research questions to

1538
01:23:30,290 --> 01:23:28,620
try to develop it so uh I had come up

1539
01:23:32,330 --> 01:23:30,300
with keywords I said can you say and

1540
01:23:35,209 --> 01:23:32,340
you'll hear me say this on some of the

1541
01:23:37,250 --> 01:23:35,219
clips can you say rathman or can you say

1542
01:23:39,950 --> 01:23:37,260
Anthony rathman

1543
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:39,960
to have them say your name especially

1544
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,960
first and last or even last tells you

1545
01:23:47,570 --> 01:23:44,400
you've got some sort of connection

1546
01:23:49,490 --> 01:23:47,580
that's not typical because my name's not

1547
01:23:52,850 --> 01:23:49,500
being thrown around

1548
01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:52,860
over any type of electronic device

1549
01:23:58,250 --> 01:23:55,260
so it's just it gives me a starting

1550
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,260
point to go okay I've got a connection

1551
01:24:03,470 --> 01:24:00,239
and that's what I started out with

1552
01:24:05,390 --> 01:24:03,480
asking rathman's not a common name I

1553
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:05,400
mean as far as I know you're the only

1554
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:07,440
wrathman I've ever met

1555
01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:10,800
yeah right not like Smith or no no no no

1556
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:21,170
can you say Anthony rathman

1557
01:24:21,180 --> 01:24:33,830
[Music]

1558
01:24:39,770 --> 01:24:37,149
get out of Dodge

1559
01:24:41,390 --> 01:24:39,780
okay I'm gonna play this again I I just

1560
01:24:42,189 --> 01:24:41,400
got to do this again that's just too

1561
01:24:47,570 --> 01:24:42,199
cool

1562
01:24:47,580 --> 01:24:54,770
okay

1563
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:58,310
identified

1564
01:25:05,450 --> 01:25:01,550
okay that's straight up crazy town it is

1565
01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:08,090
it absolutely is I mean like I said when

1566
01:25:12,890 --> 01:25:10,080
I saw Ron doing this I said you have to

1567
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:12,900
T will you please teach me this and he

1568
01:25:19,010 --> 01:25:15,600
said well understand it's not a it's not

1569
01:25:21,229 --> 01:25:19,020
a a device it's a method and there's a

1570
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:21,239
million variables that work in it and

1571
01:25:26,810 --> 01:25:24,719
but the possibilities are just endless I

1572
01:25:28,430 --> 01:25:26,820
mean we don't even know that's full

1573
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:28,440
capability yet

1574
01:25:35,390 --> 01:25:32,159
and explain to to everyone the process

1575
01:25:39,410 --> 01:25:35,400
again we are this isn't a Spirit Box

1576
01:25:42,350 --> 01:25:39,420
this isn't uh disembodied voices we're

1577
01:25:43,970 --> 01:25:42,360
listening to full spectrum

1578
01:25:46,970 --> 01:25:43,980
white noise

1579
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:46,980
right coming out of a tiny little world

1580
01:25:51,169 --> 01:25:49,679
band radio so if I I'm not going to do

1581
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,179
it but if I flip it on you'll just hear

1582
01:25:55,550 --> 01:25:53,520
that static White Noise sound like if

1583
01:26:00,169 --> 01:25:55,560
your TV wasn't on

1584
01:26:04,010 --> 01:26:00,179
correct right then that gets filtered

1585
01:26:05,629 --> 01:26:04,020
with basically Studio software if you

1586
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:05,639
were going in to make a record they've

1587
01:26:11,770 --> 01:26:09,840
got Hardware that you know can lower

1588
01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:11,780
noise change

1589
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,480
frequencies right it's a version of that

1590
01:26:19,250 --> 01:26:17,760
and so you input the white noise and

1591
01:26:21,890 --> 01:26:19,260
then you filter

1592
01:26:24,709 --> 01:26:21,900
the White Noise sound and you'll hit

1593
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:24,719
this point where the white noise just

1594
01:26:28,990 --> 01:26:27,840
drops and then you'll hear what sounds

1595
01:26:31,370 --> 01:26:29,000
like

1596
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,380
thousands or hundreds of thousands of

1597
01:26:36,890 --> 01:26:33,840
people all talking at once

1598
01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:36,900
it's insane it's insane that was really

1599
01:26:44,090 --> 01:26:40,880
cool all right uh

1600
01:26:47,810 --> 01:26:44,100
okay this this next one is

1601
01:26:51,229 --> 01:26:47,820
energy of your mind

1602
01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:51,239
well this one I was asking some

1603
01:26:57,169 --> 01:26:54,480
questions about how they hear me because

1604
01:26:59,450 --> 01:26:57,179
when I'm doing this my voice is not

1605
01:27:01,490 --> 01:26:59,460
transmitted my voice doesn't go out of

1606
01:27:04,729 --> 01:27:01,500
some sort of microphone and then

1607
01:27:07,129 --> 01:27:04,739
transmitted into waves so I wanted to

1608
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:07,139
know how they hear me when I speak

1609
01:27:12,350 --> 01:27:09,360
because I'm usually in a haunted

1610
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:12,360
location or my own home doing this and

1611
01:27:17,870 --> 01:27:15,600
then they answer so I think I asked how

1612
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:17,880
do you hear me when I speak and this was

1613
01:27:21,709 --> 01:27:18,960
the answer

1614
01:27:24,229 --> 01:27:21,719
here we go

1615
01:27:30,729 --> 01:27:24,239
let's make sure I got the right one it

1616
01:27:30,739 --> 01:27:35,510
did you just say Wrath

1617
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:40,209
yep

1618
01:27:51,229 --> 01:27:43,010
so you know who I am can I Know Who You

1619
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:54,830
yes sir thank you who who am I speaking

1620
01:28:02,689 --> 01:27:56,159
to

1621
01:28:24,410 --> 01:28:05,629
how many spirits are with me right now

1622
01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:28,790
a lot

1623
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,280
foreign

1624
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:35,330
[Music]

1625
01:28:53,330 --> 01:28:37,360
where are you at right now

1626
01:28:53,340 --> 01:29:08,750
how do you hear me speak

1627
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:28,570
foreign

1628
01:29:28,580 --> 01:29:41,350
how do you hear me when I speak to you

1629
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:46,610
did you say they're dead

1630
01:30:03,189 --> 01:29:48,310
yes

1631
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:09,050
so are you on this planet as well

1632
01:30:09,060 --> 01:30:29,149
properties

1633
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,070
all right if I'm really speaking to

1634
01:30:35,450 --> 01:30:33,840
people who had passed away from this

1635
01:30:38,209 --> 01:30:35,460
planet

1636
01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:38,219
can you say hello

1637
01:30:48,290 --> 01:30:42,000
spirits sorry you like being called

1638
01:30:54,350 --> 01:30:51,050
yep okay

1639
01:30:58,610 --> 01:30:54,360
um that that was remarkable there was a

1640
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few things I want to go back he said

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01:31:03,890 --> 01:31:01,440
when he said who are he said I'm chip

1642
01:31:07,070 --> 01:31:03,900
paddam yep

1643
01:31:09,649 --> 01:31:07,080
did you do any Research into who this

1644
01:31:12,770 --> 01:31:09,659
might have been sure did

1645
01:31:15,410 --> 01:31:12,780
um we had uh researcher

1646
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go and look to see what she could find

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on names she had actually found a death

1648
01:31:23,149 --> 01:31:21,360
certificate for a chip pattern

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I think it was like

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I don't remember what the early early

1651
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mid 1900s I think it was but

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with a Spirit Box you never have

1653
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somebody come up and literally give a

1654
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first and last name we have multiple of

1655
01:31:40,970 --> 01:31:38,820
these where they identify themselves or

1656
01:31:42,590 --> 01:31:40,980
the name that they had when they were

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here

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01:31:48,129 --> 01:31:47,100
wow that was that was and very insistent

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01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:48,139
about

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01:31:53,870 --> 01:31:50,639
them uh you know being here but they

1661
01:31:56,930 --> 01:31:53,880
were Spirits you know quit quit quit

1662
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calling is what we're not right

1663
01:32:04,610 --> 01:31:59,940
wow that was I've got to take a break I

1664
01:32:07,010 --> 01:32:04,620
I'm just blown away I'm chip padum

1665
01:32:08,930 --> 01:32:07,020
wow incredible this is Fade to Black our

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guest tonight this is we are doing

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Halloween for the rest of the month

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Halloween night one

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Tony rathman they call him Anthony

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we'll be right back after this short

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[Music]

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oh

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s you're listening to Jimmy church this

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm real

1793
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stupid church tonight Tony rathman is

1794
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with us

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he and his wife

1796
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Sheree our entity voices paranormal

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investigations and uh their show on the

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x is Monday nights uh right before Fade

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to Black you need to check it out always

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great stuff and uh uh Tony

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01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:54,960
um here's the thing

1802
01:38:59,570 --> 01:38:57,360
um I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you a quick

1803
01:39:03,950 --> 01:38:59,580
story before we get back to to these

1804
01:39:07,010 --> 01:39:03,960
EVPs but what is your your favorite

1805
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,020
piece of gear if there's an essential

1806
01:39:13,310 --> 01:39:09,840
piece of gear for you what would it be

1807
01:39:16,250 --> 01:39:13,320
uh considering you use the word gear my

1808
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:16,260
favorite is a Spirit box but as far as

1809
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,440
this new method of direct radio voice it

1810
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:21,840
has definitely topped even what I

1811
01:39:26,450 --> 01:39:24,000
absolutely loved about Spirit boxes

1812
01:39:29,570 --> 01:39:26,460
because you don't get a single word or

1813
01:39:31,850 --> 01:39:29,580
two it's not mixed in with sweeping

1814
01:39:32,930 --> 01:39:31,860
radio because it doesn't sweep it sits

1815
01:39:35,209 --> 01:39:32,940
on a

1816
01:39:37,610 --> 01:39:35,219
high frequency or low frequency World

1817
01:39:40,729 --> 01:39:37,620
band radio with no transmission and

1818
01:39:42,530 --> 01:39:40,739
these voices just show up yeah it's

1819
01:39:46,250 --> 01:39:42,540
definitely direct radio voice pretty

1820
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:46,260
incredible and uh I've talked with you

1821
01:39:51,669 --> 01:39:49,199
in the past about this freaking haunted

1822
01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:51,679
house that uh I've moved into

1823
01:39:58,490 --> 01:39:55,199
and uh I'm just dealing with it we've

1824
01:40:03,050 --> 01:39:58,500
got an agreement you know I'm not scared

1825
01:40:06,530 --> 01:40:03,060
and uh that's it I'm you know learning

1826
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:06,540
to live with it but a few months ago

1827
01:40:12,410 --> 01:40:10,320
uh I had a dinner party uh over at the

1828
01:40:16,250 --> 01:40:12,420
house and

1829
01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:16,260
um and and guests are arriving and uh

1830
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,320
Lisa uh Reed uh she arrives first and uh

1831
01:40:29,149 --> 01:40:24,239
and then another friend of mine uh

1832
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:29,159
arrived from out of state Ken and I uh

1833
01:40:35,149 --> 01:40:30,960
while we're waiting for guests to arrive

1834
01:40:38,030 --> 01:40:35,159
I I take Ken on a little tour of

1835
01:40:40,490 --> 01:40:38,040
Palmdale and I said Lisa you know stay

1836
01:40:42,770 --> 01:40:40,500
here and you know let people in uh when

1837
01:40:45,410 --> 01:40:42,780
when they get here she's like cool so

1838
01:40:47,090 --> 01:40:45,420
she's in my house alone this is the

1839
01:40:48,669 --> 01:40:47,100
sun's still up it's I don't know

1840
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:48,679
probably four o'clock in the afternoon

1841
01:40:55,370 --> 01:40:53,040
and uh so I take Ken to go see Lockheed

1842
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:55,380
Skunk Works right we're out driving

1843
01:40:59,330 --> 01:40:57,840
and uh and so we come back it's about a

1844
01:41:03,410 --> 01:40:59,340
half hour later 50 minutes and a half

1845
01:41:07,250 --> 01:41:03,420
hour Lisa's all freaked out

1846
01:41:09,110 --> 01:41:07,260
there's somebody walking around upstairs

1847
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:09,120
and uh

1848
01:41:14,510 --> 01:41:11,760
I said what's going on and Ken and I are

1849
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:14,520
standing there because I was sitting on

1850
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:15,840
the couch

1851
01:41:21,610 --> 01:41:19,440
and there's footsteps above my head

1852
01:41:24,850 --> 01:41:21,620
I said that's that's where they happen

1853
01:41:30,110 --> 01:41:24,860
really so she got to hear it for herself

1854
01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:30,120
so then I take her and Ken upstairs

1855
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:33,600
to where uh directly above where she is

1856
01:41:39,050 --> 01:41:36,239
sitting okay all right that section of

1857
01:41:43,010 --> 01:41:39,060
the house which is the master bathroom

1858
01:41:46,129 --> 01:41:43,020
in in my bedroom which is

1859
01:41:47,890 --> 01:41:46,139
I don't know it's probably

1860
01:41:51,169 --> 01:41:47,900
uh

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01:41:54,890 --> 01:41:51,179
20 feet by 20 feet the the bathroom

1862
01:41:57,229 --> 01:41:54,900
right but it's a tile floor the the

1863
01:42:01,129 --> 01:41:57,239
upstairs is carpeted except for right

1864
01:42:04,490 --> 01:42:01,139
the bathrooms upstairs and so this is

1865
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:04,500
just a big tile floor

1866
01:42:11,870 --> 01:42:08,159
and I hear what I

1867
01:42:14,450 --> 01:42:11,880
um what I hear from because downstairs

1868
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,460
in the family room the TV's over here

1869
01:42:22,129 --> 01:42:17,280
the couches against this back wall and

1870
01:42:24,109 --> 01:42:22,139
above that is the master bath and I hear

1871
01:42:26,270 --> 01:42:24,119
because I know the layout of the house I

1872
01:42:29,410 --> 01:42:26,280
hear the footsteps come from the doorway

1873
01:42:33,649 --> 01:42:29,420
in the bathroom and kind of arch around

1874
01:42:36,830 --> 01:42:33,659
and and stop above my head which is what

1875
01:42:39,470 --> 01:42:36,840
Lisa heard right so it's not my

1876
01:42:41,450 --> 01:42:39,480
imagination and I hear it so often now I

1877
01:42:44,450 --> 01:42:41,460
I just don't give a crap I don't react

1878
01:42:46,850 --> 01:42:44,460
to it I don't freak out and I definitely

1879
01:42:48,649 --> 01:42:46,860
don't run upstairs to see if there's

1880
01:42:49,930 --> 01:42:48,659
anything going on I don't want a

1881
01:42:53,990 --> 01:42:49,940
confrontation

1882
01:42:56,750 --> 01:42:54,000
but so we're up there in the bathroom

1883
01:42:59,270 --> 01:42:56,760
and we she walks across as the same

1884
01:43:01,090 --> 01:42:59,280
sound right on the tile floor it that

1885
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:01,100
you hear from downstairs

1886
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:04,980
what what is causing that again it's a

1887
01:43:08,689 --> 01:43:06,719
physical thing

1888
01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:08,699
right it's footstep it's physical

1889
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:11,040
something

1890
01:43:18,770 --> 01:43:15,360
is causing the this the sound to be

1891
01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:18,780
created on the tile floor right what's

1892
01:43:23,629 --> 01:43:21,600
what's doing that well

1893
01:43:25,250 --> 01:43:23,639
first of all the first question to ask

1894
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:25,260
and like I said if you ever want to

1895
01:43:27,890 --> 01:43:26,400
really find out

1896
01:43:29,149 --> 01:43:27,900
have us come out there we'll tell you

1897
01:43:31,790 --> 01:43:29,159
what's going on but the first question

1898
01:43:32,930 --> 01:43:31,800
is is it residual or is it an

1899
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:32,940
intelligent

1900
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:36,239
and I use the word haunting but but is

1901
01:43:42,290 --> 01:43:39,600
it is it past energy replaying

1902
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:42,300
or is it an intelligent that's actually

1903
01:43:48,250 --> 01:43:45,600
thinking that she's showering and I say

1904
01:43:52,189 --> 01:43:48,260
she yeah interesting

1905
01:43:53,870 --> 01:43:52,199
you said the sound was similar with the

1906
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:53,880
person in your house walking on it when

1907
01:43:58,189 --> 01:43:56,400
you were downstairs but she's showering

1908
01:44:00,410 --> 01:43:58,199
I think you said this was at night right

1909
01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:00,420
yeah this was in the middle of the day

1910
01:44:05,209 --> 01:44:03,840
when she heard it typically

1911
01:44:07,550 --> 01:44:05,219
um now

1912
01:44:09,770 --> 01:44:07,560
I don't have a journal I'm not writing

1913
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:09,780
this down but

1914
01:44:15,950 --> 01:44:12,480
um each night after Fade to Black

1915
01:44:18,410 --> 01:44:15,960
um you know it's 10 30 11 o'clock

1916
01:44:21,410 --> 01:44:18,420
um and I'm I'm eating dinner in the

1917
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:21,420
family room and I never eat dinner at my

1918
01:44:25,250 --> 01:44:23,280
dining room table don't ask me why that

1919
01:44:28,310 --> 01:44:25,260
is so

1920
01:44:31,010 --> 01:44:28,320
um but but anyway and dudes there it is

1921
01:44:34,609 --> 01:44:31,020
man 11 o'clock at night and and I'll

1922
01:44:36,649 --> 01:44:34,619
hear the footsteps and so that's but she

1923
01:44:39,649 --> 01:44:36,659
heard it in the middle of the day I'm

1924
01:44:42,530 --> 01:44:39,659
gonna say four o'clock in the afternoon

1925
01:44:44,510 --> 01:44:42,540
okay well you know I was gonna say if

1926
01:44:47,330 --> 01:44:44,520
it's at night because women will always

1927
01:44:50,330 --> 01:44:47,340
take a shower before they go to bed guys

1928
01:44:52,910 --> 01:44:50,340
we could be out fixing cars all day I

1929
01:44:55,250 --> 01:44:52,920
I'm so tired I will jump in the bed and

1930
01:44:56,570 --> 01:44:55,260
shower in the morning but right but if

1931
01:44:58,729 --> 01:44:56,580
she heard at four in the afternoon then

1932
01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:58,739
it's a little tougher to tell but but

1933
01:45:02,689 --> 01:45:00,480
like I said it could be a residual where

1934
01:45:04,609 --> 01:45:02,699
the energy is replaying

1935
01:45:06,649 --> 01:45:04,619
um which eventually

1936
01:45:08,450 --> 01:45:06,659
by physics energy

1937
01:45:10,189 --> 01:45:08,460
cannot be destroyed it can only change

1938
01:45:13,189 --> 01:45:10,199
form which means it would have to be

1939
01:45:15,229 --> 01:45:13,199
recharged somehow if it was residual or

1940
01:45:17,090 --> 01:45:15,239
it would fade away eventually

1941
01:45:19,250 --> 01:45:17,100
or if it's an intelligent haunting

1942
01:45:22,129 --> 01:45:19,260
that's getting its energy from somewhere

1943
01:45:23,810 --> 01:45:22,139
then keep an eye on is it happening at

1944
01:45:25,790 --> 01:45:23,820
the same time every day or do you see

1945
01:45:28,250 --> 01:45:25,800
variances on the weekend compared to the

1946
01:45:30,649 --> 01:45:28,260
weekday if you see that then it's not

1947
01:45:32,750 --> 01:45:30,659
residual of a one-time event then you've

1948
01:45:34,609 --> 01:45:32,760
got some sort of intelligence that's

1949
01:45:38,330 --> 01:45:34,619
keeping a schedule

1950
01:45:40,669 --> 01:45:38,340
I did check this comment out this is

1951
01:45:43,790 --> 01:45:40,679
from Star scarred

1952
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:43,800
this is why vacuum lines into the carpet

1953
01:45:48,770 --> 01:45:46,080
is nice to have maybe the pile shows

1954
01:45:49,930 --> 01:45:48,780
something well that's that's a great

1955
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:49,940
point

1956
01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:52,560
this is where people have put down flour

1957
01:45:56,770 --> 01:45:54,719
and then come back knowing there's no

1958
01:46:00,890 --> 01:45:56,780
one else in the building and see

1959
01:46:03,530 --> 01:46:00,900
Barefoot prints across the flower so do

1960
01:46:06,350 --> 01:46:03,540
they have the ability to interact on our

1961
01:46:08,990 --> 01:46:06,360
three-dimensional plane and move things

1962
01:46:13,850 --> 01:46:09,000
and disturb things and leave Footprints

1963
01:46:18,410 --> 01:46:13,860
and sounds absolutely they do I um it's

1964
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:18,420
funny that that comment was made because

1965
01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:19,679
um

1966
01:46:27,709 --> 01:46:23,520
I I'm just gonna I'm just I don't want

1967
01:46:29,870 --> 01:46:27,719
to sound ridiculous here but uh uh I

1968
01:46:33,470 --> 01:46:29,880
recently because I guessed over the

1969
01:46:36,050 --> 01:46:33,480
weekend so uh I vacuum vacuumed the

1970
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:36,060
entire upstairs right all at once right

1971
01:46:40,390 --> 01:46:38,880
three bedrooms and in The Loft my

1972
01:46:43,010 --> 01:46:40,400
bedroom the hallway

1973
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:43,020
and I like

1974
01:46:48,950 --> 01:46:45,840
Clean vacuum lines

1975
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:48,960
right I just like that look and when I

1976
01:46:54,169 --> 01:46:51,840
was done and I put the vacuum away I

1977
01:46:57,169 --> 01:46:54,179
swear on all that is Holy

1978
01:47:00,050 --> 01:46:57,179
I said if I see footprints

1979
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:00,060
right I'm gonna lose my freaking mind

1980
01:47:08,090 --> 01:47:06,480
please and and I'm saying this to myself

1981
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:08,100
um and I want to make sure that

1982
01:47:13,729 --> 01:47:10,800
whoever's visiting me is hearing me very

1983
01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:13,739
clearly don't freak me out I don't need

1984
01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:17,520
Footprints in my vacuum lines and I

1985
01:47:22,430 --> 01:47:20,880
thought about this and so is this

1986
01:47:25,010 --> 01:47:22,440
something that is pretty normal right

1987
01:47:27,890 --> 01:47:25,020
you cleanly because then all the pile is

1988
01:47:30,109 --> 01:47:27,900
up right and then you you'll have

1989
01:47:33,050 --> 01:47:30,119
footprints found later

1990
01:47:34,910 --> 01:47:33,060
yeah I mean that that's been documented

1991
01:47:37,370 --> 01:47:34,920
over and over where they're able to

1992
01:47:39,890 --> 01:47:37,380
manipulate circumstances and then you've

1993
01:47:41,689 --> 01:47:39,900
got even just the audio where you know

1994
01:47:43,370 --> 01:47:41,699
you're in a building that's been

1995
01:47:45,169 --> 01:47:43,380
carpeted but yet you're hearing the

1996
01:47:47,450 --> 01:47:45,179
sound of Old West cowboy boots walking

1997
01:47:49,729 --> 01:47:47,460
across the hardwood floor no man

1998
01:47:51,470 --> 01:47:49,739
seriously not possible in the state the

1999
01:47:53,810 --> 01:47:51,480
buildings in today right right right

2000
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,820
right right right right right and I'm so

2001
01:47:58,570 --> 01:47:55,679
setting myself up for this I'm burning

2002
01:48:03,250 --> 01:48:00,709
lit it up through the commercial break

2003
01:48:07,310 --> 01:48:03,260
I'm like man

2004
01:48:10,609 --> 01:48:07,320
I I don't want to

2005
01:48:13,550 --> 01:48:10,619
um not only uh freak myself out but I

2006
01:48:15,890 --> 01:48:13,560
don't want to invite issues right but

2007
01:48:17,810 --> 01:48:15,900
here's the other thing I don't

2008
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:17,820
I don't want to see it

2009
01:48:23,450 --> 01:48:21,119
right at least if I have people over and

2010
01:48:26,090 --> 01:48:23,460
we see it together that's a different

2011
01:48:29,330 --> 01:48:26,100
story but I don't want to be that person

2012
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:29,340
running down the street at midnight ah

2013
01:48:35,149 --> 01:48:32,400
you know I don't want to be that guy but

2014
01:48:37,490 --> 01:48:35,159
you you were you were

2015
01:48:38,990 --> 01:48:37,500
upfront with them and you set boundaries

2016
01:48:41,570 --> 01:48:39,000
I mean you literally said I don't want

2017
01:48:45,109 --> 01:48:41,580
to see Footprints in my carpet marks or

2018
01:48:46,910 --> 01:48:45,119
my vacuum lines you know I don't wanna I

2019
01:48:48,709 --> 01:48:46,920
don't want you to show up in front of me

2020
01:48:50,810 --> 01:48:48,719
and I remember you and I talking about

2021
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:50,820
this about what was going on right at

2022
01:48:57,530 --> 01:48:53,520
your home and you know I said set your

2023
01:48:59,810 --> 01:48:57,540
boundaries and only then will they as

2024
01:49:01,729 --> 01:48:59,820
long as it's not malicious in any type

2025
01:49:03,709 --> 01:49:01,739
they'll they'll probably follow them if

2026
01:49:06,410 --> 01:49:03,719
you're going to share that space and so

2027
01:49:09,229 --> 01:49:06,420
far it seems like that's happening so

2028
01:49:10,370 --> 01:49:09,239
that's good for both sides I was

2029
01:49:13,669 --> 01:49:10,380
watching

2030
01:49:15,410 --> 01:49:13,679
um uh Ryan Murphy's uh new TV series

2031
01:49:17,930 --> 01:49:15,420
it's called watcher

2032
01:49:21,229 --> 01:49:17,940
and you've got to check it out Tony it's

2033
01:49:23,570 --> 01:49:21,239
it's wonderful and Ryan

2034
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:23,580
um uh I we went to the same High School

2035
01:49:28,490 --> 01:49:26,159
uh together I didn't know him you know

2036
01:49:31,729 --> 01:49:28,500
well I you know I just knew who he was

2037
01:49:33,709 --> 01:49:31,739
right but he is so demented I I don't

2038
01:49:36,350 --> 01:49:33,719
know we we grew up in the same

2039
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:36,360
neighborhood I don't know how he went

2040
01:49:45,169 --> 01:49:39,600
down this Twisted path and and I went to

2041
01:49:46,010 --> 01:49:45,179
the but he writes scary stuff so this

2042
01:49:48,410 --> 01:49:46,020
week

2043
01:49:50,510 --> 01:49:48,420
um when I got back from Egypt

2044
01:49:54,530 --> 01:49:50,520
I'm watching this new TV's freaking

2045
01:49:59,330 --> 01:49:57,050
the last episode

2046
01:50:01,490 --> 01:49:59,340
um uh what's her name I I her her name

2047
01:50:03,229 --> 01:50:01,500
escapes me uh she's just wonderful Best

2048
01:50:05,870 --> 01:50:03,239
in Show

2049
01:50:09,950 --> 01:50:05,880
um uh that's it she's running up the

2050
01:50:12,830 --> 01:50:09,960
street runs out of the house ah I just

2051
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:12,840
don't want to be that guy I I truly

2052
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:15,840
don't I understand yeah you had uh

2053
01:50:20,149 --> 01:50:17,760
suggested something and I and I was

2054
01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:20,159
watching it pop up here

2055
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:22,560
um to set up cameras in my house right

2056
01:50:29,629 --> 01:50:25,920
right and you had suggested the stairway

2057
01:50:31,070 --> 01:50:29,639
and setting the motion detectors on okay

2058
01:50:32,990 --> 01:50:31,080
so

2059
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:33,000
um in my home I have four motion

2060
01:50:37,550 --> 01:50:34,800
detectors I'm looking at one right there

2061
01:50:39,890 --> 01:50:37,560
right right there I could take the

2062
01:50:42,169 --> 01:50:39,900
camera and spin it and show you one

2063
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:42,179
there I've got one uh well anyway I

2064
01:50:46,010 --> 01:50:43,920
don't want to let everybody know where

2065
01:50:49,010 --> 01:50:46,020
the motion detectors are

2066
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:49,020
um and I've got uh three interior

2067
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,840
cameras Now set up in the house

2068
01:50:55,490 --> 01:50:54,000
they are turned off

2069
01:50:59,149 --> 01:50:55,500
when I'm home

2070
01:51:00,770 --> 01:50:59,159
the exterior cameras right those are on

2071
01:51:04,990 --> 01:51:00,780
all the time and I'm getting those

2072
01:51:10,250 --> 01:51:05,000
alerts I do not Tony for the love of God

2073
01:51:14,030 --> 01:51:10,260
do not want to be in bed at midnight and

2074
01:51:17,090 --> 01:51:14,040
have an interior motion sensor go off so

2075
01:51:19,129 --> 01:51:17,100
totally totally understand but no I

2076
01:51:22,430 --> 01:51:19,139
think what I what I explained was if

2077
01:51:24,350 --> 01:51:22,440
you're not ready to see it or experience

2078
01:51:28,070 --> 01:51:24,360
it then keep doing what you're doing

2079
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:28,080
keep those boundaries set so they know

2080
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:30,960
what you don't want and like I said it's

2081
01:51:34,910 --> 01:51:33,360
been it's been six months or five months

2082
01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:34,920
since we had that conversation and

2083
01:51:39,850 --> 01:51:36,480
everything seems to be working out

2084
01:51:42,830 --> 01:51:39,860
believe it or not not everything is

2085
01:51:45,470 --> 01:51:42,840
demons and like Hollywood likes to

2086
01:51:47,450 --> 01:51:45,480
portray even a lot of the ghost shows

2087
01:51:48,590 --> 01:51:47,460
you know everything's demo that's not

2088
01:51:52,490 --> 01:51:48,600
the case

2089
01:51:56,270 --> 01:51:52,500
so there is intelligence there is a

2090
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:56,280
level of understanding and they know if

2091
01:52:01,010 --> 01:51:58,320
you're not comfortable and

2092
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:01,020
probably will not do something that they

2093
01:52:04,669 --> 01:52:02,400
know is going to upset you because

2094
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:04,679
you're sharing that space right right

2095
01:52:11,290 --> 01:52:07,440
right I've just

2096
01:52:13,689 --> 01:52:11,300
my mindset is I don't give a crap right

2097
01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:13,699
that's what I'm trying to project

2098
01:52:20,689 --> 01:52:18,239
I don't care uh man I just I I turn on

2099
01:52:23,450 --> 01:52:20,699
when I leave the house you know boom

2100
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:23,460
fully armed you know that that's what

2101
01:52:30,709 --> 01:52:26,880
it's there for but no I I just don't

2102
01:52:34,370 --> 01:52:30,719
want to have a camera go off inside the

2103
01:52:37,070 --> 01:52:34,380
house while I'm here no no no no I don't

2104
01:52:39,830 --> 01:52:37,080
want to see it I don't want to know

2105
01:52:42,530 --> 01:52:39,840
um it could be a fly but I don't want

2106
01:52:45,109 --> 01:52:42,540
you know what I mean I I just know right

2107
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,119
I would literally lose my mind

2108
01:52:50,030 --> 01:52:47,520
yeah I mean if you're not used to it

2109
01:52:51,649 --> 01:52:50,040
yeah it's terribly unsettling and like

2110
01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:51,659
you said it could be a fly it could have

2111
01:52:55,970 --> 01:52:54,239
been you know who knows what but your

2112
01:52:58,010 --> 01:52:55,980
mind's obviously instantly going to go

2113
01:53:01,250 --> 01:52:58,020
to the worst case scenario and that

2114
01:53:04,910 --> 01:53:01,260
would be unsettling yeah I have lizards

2115
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:04,920
outside set off my uh outside cameras

2116
01:53:10,310 --> 01:53:08,520
all the time and uh you know so I'll get

2117
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:10,320
it I'll watch and it'll be a lizard or

2118
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:12,719
whatever it's it's stuff like that all

2119
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,159
right come to think of it I wouldn't

2120
01:53:19,129 --> 01:53:16,800
want to see a lizard inside of my house

2121
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:19,139
tripping off cameras either all right

2122
01:53:23,450 --> 01:53:20,639
let's uh

2123
01:53:26,410 --> 01:53:23,460
I did have a lizard in the house

2124
01:53:28,669 --> 01:53:26,420
I did I did in my bathroom

2125
01:53:30,890 --> 01:53:28,679
I don't think that's what was causing

2126
01:53:34,729 --> 01:53:30,900
the footsteps uh by the way probably not

2127
01:53:36,050 --> 01:53:34,739
no probably not no okay let's go

2128
01:53:40,189 --> 01:53:36,060
uh

2129
01:53:43,370 --> 01:53:40,199
he can hear us

2130
01:53:44,830 --> 01:53:43,380
okay that was actually one of the very

2131
01:53:47,689 --> 01:53:44,840
first

2132
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:47,699
responses I ever captured with direct

2133
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:51,840
radio voice and this let me know that

2134
01:53:57,470 --> 01:53:54,719
I had a connection and everything Grew

2135
01:54:00,169 --> 01:53:57,480
From this first capture but you can go

2136
01:54:11,570 --> 01:54:00,179
ahead and play it okay here we go

2137
01:54:23,950 --> 01:54:14,109
wow okay I'm gonna play that again

2138
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:27,470
thank you okay that sound that's

2139
01:54:31,609 --> 01:54:29,040
incredible

2140
01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:31,619
um but that sounds like a group

2141
01:54:37,490 --> 01:54:34,800
it it is it's more than one yeah they're

2142
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:37,500
talking amongst themselves and the

2143
01:54:42,830 --> 01:54:40,560
device allowed me to hear it but that

2144
01:54:45,470 --> 01:54:42,840
was the first time I ever had it dialed

2145
01:54:47,330 --> 01:54:45,480
in correctly to be able to get responses

2146
01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:47,340
and I don't even I didn't even ask

2147
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:50,639
anything I just heard them saying he can

2148
01:54:55,010 --> 01:54:52,560
hear us can he and then they're like can

2149
01:54:57,530 --> 01:54:55,020
they can he see us and I didn't even

2150
01:55:01,010 --> 01:54:57,540
respond I was like oh my gosh I think I

2151
01:55:02,450 --> 01:55:01,020
finally made that connection and then

2152
01:55:05,050 --> 01:55:02,460
everything that you've heard since then

2153
01:55:08,090 --> 01:55:05,060
is was all after that first connection

2154
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:08,100
do you think because they they said us

2155
01:55:15,169 --> 01:55:11,040
over and over again there

2156
01:55:20,209 --> 01:55:15,179
um is this a situation where just like

2157
01:55:20,990 --> 01:55:20,219
we are attempting contact to see and to

2158
01:55:23,390 --> 01:55:21,000
hear

2159
01:55:25,189 --> 01:55:23,400
that they're doing the exact same thing

2160
01:55:27,669 --> 01:55:25,199
Are we almost do you think we're like

2161
01:55:30,590 --> 01:55:27,679
ghosts and spirits to them

2162
01:55:32,450 --> 01:55:30,600
absolutely that's possible if if you

2163
01:55:35,390 --> 01:55:32,460
believe in the fact that there could be

2164
01:55:39,169 --> 01:55:35,400
multiple Dimensions within the same area

2165
01:55:44,030 --> 01:55:39,179
plane meaning that you know people from

2166
01:55:47,930 --> 01:55:44,040
say the 1800s stay in their plane

2167
01:55:50,570 --> 01:55:47,940
um and live the life that they were used

2168
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:50,580
to that the houses were set up and that

2169
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:53,040
we're in ours and that crossover between

2170
01:55:58,250 --> 01:55:56,400
the two we literally could be the ghosts

2171
01:56:02,510 --> 01:55:58,260
to them

2172
01:56:04,010 --> 01:56:02,520
just as we are experiencing them on our

2173
01:56:07,609 --> 01:56:04,020
side when those

2174
01:56:10,669 --> 01:56:07,619
when those areas overlap so absolutely

2175
01:56:12,770 --> 01:56:10,679
that's possible so when they're you know

2176
01:56:15,169 --> 01:56:12,780
and anybody who does EVP work you

2177
01:56:17,209 --> 01:56:15,179
there's always two things that you hear

2178
01:56:18,890 --> 01:56:17,219
over and over help

2179
01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:18,900
get out

2180
01:56:23,629 --> 01:56:21,119
you know and and when I started thinking

2181
01:56:27,590 --> 01:56:23,639
about that I'm like okay am I am I

2182
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:27,600
somehow impeding on their plane and what

2183
01:56:31,129 --> 01:56:29,520
they're literally saying is they're

2184
01:56:33,890 --> 01:56:31,139
freaking out because maybe they're

2185
01:56:35,810 --> 01:56:33,900
seeing me or maybe I'm the ghost in

2186
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:35,820
their world and they're like get out get

2187
01:56:41,450 --> 01:56:38,400
out help you know I I don't know yeah

2188
01:56:45,530 --> 01:56:41,460
like we would do with the ghost correct

2189
01:56:47,209 --> 01:56:45,540
right and isn't it interesting how

2190
01:56:50,209 --> 01:56:47,219
physics

2191
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:50,219
you know and certainly in the quantum

2192
01:56:56,090 --> 01:56:54,239
side of things is uh doing everything

2193
01:57:00,430 --> 01:56:56,100
that they can

2194
01:57:03,590 --> 01:57:00,440
um uh to to search for extra dimensions

2195
01:57:06,590 --> 01:57:03,600
and with string theory

2196
01:57:09,070 --> 01:57:06,600
um and that research 11 Dimensions right

2197
01:57:12,770 --> 01:57:09,080
is is what they're working on right now

2198
01:57:15,649 --> 01:57:12,780
and there is a lot of talk about a Fifth

2199
01:57:18,350 --> 01:57:15,659
Dimension and a sixth uh Dimension and

2200
01:57:22,250 --> 01:57:18,360
and what this represents

2201
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:22,260
um and is if they continue with their

2202
01:57:29,030 --> 01:57:26,159
research this is exactly what we are

2203
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:29,040
finding with your research isn't it it's

2204
01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:31,440
the same huge similarities and you know

2205
01:57:36,250 --> 01:57:33,360
what that's why I always give

2206
01:57:38,930 --> 01:57:36,260
credit to paranormal researchers who

2207
01:57:40,669 --> 01:57:38,940
especially 20 years ago who were doing

2208
01:57:43,250 --> 01:57:40,679
this because today it's a little more

2209
01:57:45,470 --> 01:57:43,260
accepted people understand that hey this

2210
01:57:47,570 --> 01:57:45,480
is popular people like to do this but

2211
01:57:49,729 --> 01:57:47,580
before it was an accepted thing science

2212
01:57:51,530 --> 01:57:49,739
wouldn't touch it today there's

2213
01:57:54,589 --> 01:57:51,540
beginning to be crossover I mean even

2214
01:57:57,109 --> 01:57:54,599
science says that they believe that the

2215
01:57:59,810 --> 01:57:57,119
spirit survives death and that there's a

2216
01:58:03,109 --> 01:57:59,820
that energy continues on well it's good

2217
01:58:04,910 --> 01:58:03,119
to see that overlap so absolutely to

2218
01:58:07,550 --> 01:58:04,920
have those connections for science to

2219
01:58:09,649 --> 01:58:07,560
start to evaluate the things we've been

2220
01:58:13,629 --> 01:58:09,659
saying for years and be able to say yeah

2221
01:58:17,089 --> 01:58:13,639
this is possible to me that's fantastic

2222
01:58:19,129 --> 01:58:17,099
what if you remember the movie uh What

2223
01:58:22,129 --> 01:58:19,139
Dreams May Come which I think is you

2224
01:58:24,010 --> 01:58:22,139
know it's one of the great movies

2225
01:58:27,410 --> 01:58:24,020
um and it always kind of freaked me out

2226
01:58:28,370 --> 01:58:27,420
and not for the reasons that you may

2227
01:58:31,149 --> 01:58:28,380
think

2228
01:58:34,669 --> 01:58:31,159
I've always thought and if you remember

2229
01:58:37,750 --> 01:58:34,679
uh Robin Williams wife who's dead right

2230
01:58:41,450 --> 01:58:37,760
she doesn't know she's dead right

2231
01:58:43,070 --> 01:58:41,460
and I always flip that around what if

2232
01:58:46,609 --> 01:58:43,080
we're the dead ones

2233
01:58:49,490 --> 01:58:46,619
right what who right what whatever what

2234
01:58:52,129 --> 01:58:49,500
if we are just like she was in you know

2235
01:58:55,490 --> 01:58:52,139
and she didn't know right and she was

2236
01:58:57,410 --> 01:58:55,500
just lit what if that's the case what

2237
01:58:59,510 --> 01:58:57,420
the spirits think that they're the ones

2238
01:59:01,310 --> 01:58:59,520
that are alive and we're the ones with

2239
01:59:03,229 --> 01:59:01,320
the issues well you know how many times

2240
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:03,239
I've we've asked the question of when

2241
01:59:07,250 --> 01:59:05,280
did you die and the response comes back

2242
01:59:09,770 --> 01:59:07,260
we're not dead you're of course or not

2243
01:59:11,390 --> 01:59:09,780
they're answering me if you know it it

2244
01:59:12,189 --> 01:59:11,400
and that's the answer we get We're Not

2245
01:59:13,729 --> 01:59:12,199
Dead

2246
01:59:15,589 --> 01:59:13,739
I'm

2247
01:59:17,510 --> 01:59:15,599
I've always been fascinated with that

2248
01:59:20,030 --> 01:59:17,520
that we you know we're just living Our

2249
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,040
Lives you know we think that this is

2250
01:59:25,729 --> 01:59:22,560
this is where what if it's the opposite

2251
01:59:30,649 --> 01:59:25,739
right which is possible totally possible

2252
01:59:33,290 --> 01:59:30,659
I mean 100 and it and it seems that the

2253
01:59:37,129 --> 01:59:33,300
way that we are trying to to you know to

2254
01:59:39,050 --> 01:59:37,139
search for these answers it seems that

2255
01:59:43,850 --> 01:59:39,060
the contact

2256
01:59:46,430 --> 01:59:43,860
is is about them not knowing right where

2257
01:59:49,070 --> 01:59:46,440
they are what's going on they're

2258
01:59:51,290 --> 01:59:49,080
confused in the moment and now suddenly

2259
01:59:54,890 --> 01:59:51,300
they need they need help or assistance

2260
01:59:57,290 --> 01:59:54,900
or guidance right and do you do you hear

2261
02:00:00,109 --> 01:59:57,300
that over and over again I hear that all

2262
02:00:02,270 --> 02:00:00,119
the time but to me that doesn't make

2263
02:00:04,850 --> 02:00:02,280
logical sense I mean there's not a thing

2264
02:00:07,930 --> 02:00:04,860
on this planet that doesn't work in a

2265
02:00:11,330 --> 02:00:07,940
circular motion rain forms and clouds

2266
02:00:13,250 --> 02:00:11,340
condenses it rains the water falls it

2267
02:00:15,890 --> 02:00:13,260
runs in the streams Rivers evaporates

2268
02:00:17,930 --> 02:00:15,900
back up and clouds you know everything

2269
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:17,940
works like that plants grow drop a seed

2270
02:00:22,310 --> 02:00:20,159
grows a new plant but you're telling me

2271
02:00:26,930 --> 02:00:22,320
that a human being can pass away and

2272
02:00:28,729 --> 02:00:26,940
just get lost that to me is not logical

2273
02:00:31,250 --> 02:00:28,739
that doesn't make any sense that you

2274
02:00:32,930 --> 02:00:31,260
could get trapped or lost and that you

2275
02:00:36,589 --> 02:00:32,940
would need a human

2276
02:00:38,750 --> 02:00:36,599
to show you the way to the light I mean

2277
02:00:48,530 --> 02:00:38,760
I

2278
02:00:50,990 --> 02:00:48,540
see

2279
02:00:53,629 --> 02:00:51,000
you you went to the netherworld for a

2280
02:00:55,250 --> 02:00:53,639
second you went you you went to the

2281
02:00:56,390 --> 02:00:55,260
netherworld

2282
02:00:58,570 --> 02:00:56,400
um

2283
02:01:00,970 --> 02:00:58,580
here

2284
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:00,980
the

2285
02:01:07,790 --> 02:01:04,560
our ancestors going back thousands of

2286
02:01:09,109 --> 02:01:07,800
years have talked about this exact

2287
02:01:13,250 --> 02:01:09,119
situation

2288
02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:13,260
right going going to another realm uh

2289
02:01:20,750 --> 02:01:16,080
being trapped in between Realms

2290
02:01:23,570 --> 02:01:20,760
um having your your your your soul uh

2291
02:01:25,810 --> 02:01:23,580
tested and until you're at a certain

2292
02:01:29,450 --> 02:01:25,820
point they have been talking about this

2293
02:01:30,770 --> 02:01:29,460
for thousands of years and you are in

2294
02:01:32,470 --> 02:01:30,780
the middle of it now with with

2295
02:01:36,290 --> 02:01:32,480
technology

2296
02:01:38,450 --> 02:01:36,300
experiencing what our ancestors going

2297
02:01:39,709 --> 02:01:38,460
back to the beginning of time have

2298
02:01:40,850 --> 02:01:39,719
talked about

2299
02:01:42,830 --> 02:01:40,860
right

2300
02:01:45,830 --> 02:01:42,840
you know and the other thing about the

2301
02:01:47,390 --> 02:01:45,840
those planes of reality or whatever you

2302
02:01:49,910 --> 02:01:47,400
want to call them

2303
02:01:52,669 --> 02:01:49,920
but you know when people go ghost

2304
02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:52,679
hunting today you get people from the

2305
02:01:59,089 --> 02:01:56,880
late 1800s late 1700s but there's a cut

2306
02:02:01,790 --> 02:01:59,099
off you know no one's no one's ever

2307
02:02:04,250 --> 02:02:01,800
communicating with a Cro-Magnon man so

2308
02:02:07,550 --> 02:02:04,260
are those planes literally separated

2309
02:02:10,790 --> 02:02:07,560
where if you lived in this time frame

2310
02:02:13,850 --> 02:02:10,800
you go to this new plane and they're

2311
02:02:15,350 --> 02:02:13,860
separated from the other planes I don't

2312
02:02:17,629 --> 02:02:15,360
know I mean I don't have those answers

2313
02:02:19,970 --> 02:02:17,639
but it really makes your mind think

2314
02:02:22,669 --> 02:02:19,980
about how this functions

2315
02:02:25,370 --> 02:02:22,679
I mean have we ever seen a ghost of a

2316
02:02:28,490 --> 02:02:25,380
dinosaur no right

2317
02:02:31,750 --> 02:02:28,500
right yeah or maybe maybe Bigfoot is

2318
02:02:34,250 --> 02:02:31,760
Cro-Magnon ghost

2319
02:02:40,370 --> 02:02:34,260
it's possible

2320
02:02:43,729 --> 02:02:40,380
right now no I actually I'm not it is

2321
02:02:45,169 --> 02:02:43,739
possible yeah or he's multi-dimensional

2322
02:02:47,570 --> 02:02:45,179
and his abilities we can't even

2323
02:02:50,530 --> 02:02:47,580
comprehend yeah when somebody uh how

2324
02:02:52,189 --> 02:02:50,540
come we haven't seen a neanderthal ghost

2325
02:02:54,169 --> 02:02:52,199
Bigfoot

2326
02:02:56,330 --> 02:02:54,179
yeah right I'm just going there okay

2327
02:02:57,950 --> 02:02:56,340
let's take our break right here this is

2328
02:02:59,870 --> 02:02:57,960
Fade to Black I am your host Jimmy

2329
02:03:01,790 --> 02:02:59,880
Church we're doing Halloween for the

2330
02:03:04,609 --> 02:03:01,800
rest of the month our first guest Tony

2331
02:03:06,830 --> 02:03:04,619
rathman from the ex-entity voices

2332
02:03:08,510 --> 02:03:06,840
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2333
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:08,520
more with Tony after this short break

2334
02:03:18,109 --> 02:03:09,410
stay with us

2335
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:18,119
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2336
02:03:19,970 --> 02:03:18,850
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02:06:34,630 --> 02:06:30,599
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02:06:45,229 --> 02:06:43,189
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2397
02:06:47,629 --> 02:06:45,239
Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm your

2398
02:06:49,669 --> 02:06:47,639
chimney Church we're doing Halloween for

2399
02:06:53,570 --> 02:06:49,679
the rest of the month

2400
02:06:54,649 --> 02:06:53,580
all the way to Halloween October 31st it

2401
02:06:58,270 --> 02:06:54,659
will be

2402
02:07:02,089 --> 02:06:58,280
the anniversary of the ax one year

2403
02:07:04,970 --> 02:07:02,099
absolutely incredible and uh Tony of

2404
02:07:07,609 --> 02:07:04,980
course uh one of the hosts over over at

2405
02:07:10,189 --> 02:07:07,619
The X it's been a pretty crazy year on

2406
02:07:12,770 --> 02:07:10,199
the ax hasn't it it's been a fantastic

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02:07:14,810 --> 02:07:12,780
year I mean the the state's just

2408
02:07:16,910 --> 02:07:14,820
acquiring Talent after Talent after

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02:07:18,770 --> 02:07:16,920
Talent they're producing new shows new

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02:07:20,930 --> 02:07:18,780
stuff's coming out

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um you know it's a fantastic Network so

2412
02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:23,699
anybody who has any interest in anything

2413
02:07:28,070 --> 02:07:25,679
within the Paranormal whether it be UFO

2414
02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:28,080
whether it be it doesn't matter any side

2415
02:07:32,510 --> 02:07:30,719
there's a show that covers it and uh

2416
02:07:37,070 --> 02:07:32,520
there's some great material on there

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02:07:39,649 --> 02:07:37,080
yeah it's it's great uh you know to uh

2418
02:07:42,649 --> 02:07:39,659
to have you as a partner and uh it's

2419
02:07:46,189 --> 02:07:42,659
just been a great a great year and and

2420
02:07:49,930 --> 02:07:46,199
and race and Margie have a really uh

2421
02:07:54,649 --> 02:07:49,940
they run something very very special

2422
02:07:57,010 --> 02:07:54,659
so uh now uh let's go let's see what do

2423
02:08:00,709 --> 02:07:57,020
I have next

2424
02:08:04,850 --> 02:08:00,719
uh okay set us up for this one they

2425
02:08:07,010 --> 02:08:04,860
asked for your names okay this was an

2426
02:08:13,129 --> 02:08:07,020
investigation we took the direct radio

2427
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:13,139
voice method in a 1906 courthouse and I

2428
02:08:17,390 --> 02:08:14,880
was asking some simple questions I think

2429
02:08:20,629 --> 02:08:17,400
I started with can you say rathman

2430
02:08:22,910 --> 02:08:20,639
and these voices came through and when

2431
02:08:29,709 --> 02:08:22,920
you play it you'll you'll see what I'm

2432
02:08:29,719 --> 02:08:37,790
thank you

2433
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:50,830
okay

2434
02:08:57,169 --> 02:08:54,709
uh potty mouth yeah and one of the

2435
02:09:00,410 --> 02:08:57,179
scariest voices that came through when

2436
02:09:02,330 --> 02:09:00,420
he's like they ask your names and you

2437
02:09:05,510 --> 02:09:02,340
know I heard names I didn't hear it all

2438
02:09:08,089 --> 02:09:05,520
until I went back to review it but

2439
02:09:10,129 --> 02:09:08,099
um you know just full sentences and

2440
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:10,139
nothing that you have to really fight

2441
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:12,000
over to determine what was being said

2442
02:09:17,870 --> 02:09:14,880
it's the audibility of it is clear and

2443
02:09:20,930 --> 02:09:17,880
it it's it's just a phenomenal method

2444
02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:20,940
that how how often do you have a spirit

2445
02:09:26,990 --> 02:09:23,520
drop an F-bomb like that

2446
02:09:29,570 --> 02:09:27,000
more often than you think really um okay

2447
02:09:31,729 --> 02:09:29,580
you know I I think you take your free

2448
02:09:35,209 --> 02:09:31,739
will with you I think you take your

2449
02:09:37,070 --> 02:09:35,219
thought processes and uh you know saying

2450
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:37,080
stuff like that I think happens probably

2451
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:38,880
just as much on the other side as it

2452
02:09:44,930 --> 02:09:42,480
does here because we hear it quite often

2453
02:09:51,350 --> 02:09:44,940
um I wanted to ask you really quick okay

2454
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:55,250
okay so that is uh that's got an in and

2455
02:10:00,770 --> 02:09:57,840
out on it and that's running into the

2456
02:10:03,850 --> 02:10:00,780
software correct so the way this works

2457
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:03,860
is you literally I use

2458
02:10:08,750 --> 02:10:06,239
fourteen thousand four hundred as a

2459
02:10:11,330 --> 02:10:08,760
frequency and I use that because here in

2460
02:10:14,209 --> 02:10:11,340
Phoenix there is no broadcast on it

2461
02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:14,219
whatsoever and shortwave and long wave

2462
02:10:19,790 --> 02:10:16,560
is used for different purposes a lot of

2463
02:10:22,310 --> 02:10:19,800
long wave is used to communicate bit or

2464
02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:22,320
or Morse code and stuff to submarines

2465
02:10:26,870 --> 02:10:25,199
under the water because it's got the

2466
02:10:30,410 --> 02:10:26,880
ability to penetrate

2467
02:10:32,510 --> 02:10:30,420
water at least but so I'll tune it to

2468
02:10:34,970 --> 02:10:32,520
that frequency I've tested it for days

2469
02:10:37,430 --> 02:10:34,980
knowing there's no transmission on it

2470
02:10:38,930 --> 02:10:37,440
that signal literally goes out of the

2471
02:10:41,689 --> 02:10:38,940
audio output

2472
02:10:43,850 --> 02:10:41,699
and into the computer and then you can

2473
02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:43,860
you can manipulate the frequencies but

2474
02:10:49,570 --> 02:10:46,880
you can use it just on the white noise

2475
02:10:52,850 --> 02:10:49,580
and with enough patience and practice

2476
02:10:56,089 --> 02:10:52,860
ask questions and have responses come

2477
02:10:57,890 --> 02:10:56,099
through without any software at all and

2478
02:11:00,290 --> 02:10:57,900
Ron who I was talking about who taught

2479
02:11:02,870 --> 02:11:00,300
me how to do this did that for like a

2480
02:11:04,550 --> 02:11:02,880
year and got responses out of the

2481
02:11:08,570 --> 02:11:04,560
straight white noise

2482
02:11:10,430 --> 02:11:08,580
so all you need for this well the the

2483
02:11:16,270 --> 02:11:10,440
software plugins for the audio

2484
02:11:19,370 --> 02:11:16,280
processing correct well a laptop uh

2485
02:11:23,390 --> 02:11:19,380
and a world band radio are you using an

2486
02:11:26,030 --> 02:11:23,400
external uh interface like uh I don't

2487
02:11:28,750 --> 02:11:26,040
know what do you have a a computer

2488
02:11:32,089 --> 02:11:28,760
interface a separate

2489
02:11:36,109 --> 02:11:32,099
I run it off a laptop the only other

2490
02:11:37,850 --> 02:11:36,119
interface is the mic input so that you

2491
02:11:39,589 --> 02:11:37,860
can take the signal coming out of the

2492
02:11:41,990 --> 02:11:39,599
radio and get it into the computer so

2493
02:11:43,189 --> 02:11:42,000
it's a USB jacket right that's one of

2494
02:11:45,169 --> 02:11:43,199
them so you have a separate computer

2495
02:11:47,330 --> 02:11:45,179
interface for the audio

2496
02:11:51,950 --> 02:11:47,340
now it's the same it's the same

2497
02:11:55,010 --> 02:11:51,960
interface I just use a USB mic and and

2498
02:11:57,950 --> 02:11:55,020
out audio output so I can get the sound

2499
02:12:00,830 --> 02:11:57,960
into the computer wow so you're using

2500
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:00,840
the laptop's internal sound card

2501
02:12:05,629 --> 02:12:03,599
correct wow

2502
02:12:07,810 --> 02:12:05,639
that's a pretty simple setup so you

2503
02:12:10,070 --> 02:12:07,820
don't have to bring the you're not

2504
02:12:12,649 --> 02:12:10,080
are you saying that you're going to

2505
02:12:15,950 --> 02:12:12,659
start leaving the evoc at home

2506
02:12:18,530 --> 02:12:15,960
honestly probably until I can find some

2507
02:12:21,649 --> 02:12:18,540
other way to to manipulate it to make it

2508
02:12:25,209 --> 02:12:21,659
even better but I just I cannot

2509
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:25,219
I cannot make a Spirit Box

2510
02:12:31,250 --> 02:12:27,840
associate on the level that direct radio

2511
02:12:34,310 --> 02:12:31,260
voices and like I said Ron's got capture

2512
02:12:36,109 --> 02:12:34,320
after capture after capture similar of

2513
02:12:39,470 --> 02:12:36,119
names being said people giving

2514
02:12:42,649 --> 02:12:39,480
information to family members and the

2515
02:12:44,689 --> 02:12:42,659
system it's just I don't know the limits

2516
02:12:46,910 --> 02:12:44,699
I I have no idea what they are and I

2517
02:12:49,250 --> 02:12:46,920
can't wait to see if I can find out

2518
02:12:52,729 --> 02:12:49,260
so I want everybody to understand when

2519
02:12:54,350 --> 02:12:52,739
you're looking at the video you can see

2520
02:12:55,609 --> 02:12:54,360
um excuse me

2521
02:12:57,729 --> 02:12:55,619
foreign

2522
02:13:01,669 --> 02:12:57,739
you can see the plugins on the screen

2523
02:13:04,970 --> 02:13:01,679
you can see the levels running through

2524
02:13:08,810 --> 02:13:04,980
um the radio is there you're speaking

2525
02:13:10,729 --> 02:13:08,820
just into the room right right you're

2526
02:13:13,850 --> 02:13:10,739
just speaking into the room everything

2527
02:13:16,870 --> 02:13:13,860
else is in real time so the question and

2528
02:13:21,290 --> 02:13:16,880
answer that you're hearing you're not

2529
02:13:24,830 --> 02:13:21,300
going back after the fact and looking at

2530
02:13:29,209 --> 02:13:24,840
um waves audio files which was the old

2531
02:13:31,910 --> 02:13:29,219
process right you would have to look for

2532
02:13:35,510 --> 02:13:31,920
a response deep in the audio file

2533
02:13:39,470 --> 02:13:35,520
isolate it amplify it clean it up and

2534
02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:39,480
listen for that EVP now this is in real

2535
02:13:44,169 --> 02:13:42,239
time processed in real time and the

2536
02:13:47,750 --> 02:13:44,179
conversation is happening in real time

2537
02:13:50,629 --> 02:13:47,760
correct and the manipulation of the

2538
02:13:53,270 --> 02:13:50,639
background noise the frequency that

2539
02:13:54,890 --> 02:13:53,280
you're tuning into that all happens in

2540
02:13:56,990 --> 02:13:54,900
real time as well

2541
02:14:02,510 --> 02:13:57,000
that's incredible yeah I'm with you

2542
02:14:06,830 --> 02:14:05,149
um and so everything else all the other

2543
02:14:08,750 --> 02:14:06,840
gear that you have we're going to get

2544
02:14:09,950 --> 02:14:08,760
back to some more uh stuff here in just

2545
02:14:11,870 --> 02:14:09,960
a second

2546
02:14:14,270 --> 02:14:11,880
um you know the try field the kid the

2547
02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:14,280
the you know all of the other stuff are

2548
02:14:20,030 --> 02:14:17,760
you still taking this with you to see if

2549
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:20,040
there was something in the room with you

2550
02:14:24,589 --> 02:14:23,040
absolutely we we take everything from

2551
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:24,599
you know

2552
02:14:30,109 --> 02:14:27,599
infrared cameras to

2553
02:14:32,270 --> 02:14:30,119
um you know parabolic mics to every

2554
02:14:34,370 --> 02:14:32,280
piece of equipment we can take because

2555
02:14:37,430 --> 02:14:34,380
when you can get more than one piece of

2556
02:14:40,790 --> 02:14:37,440
equipment reacting under a a particular

2557
02:14:43,189 --> 02:14:40,800
situation it helps validate what you're

2558
02:14:45,649 --> 02:14:43,199
capturing if one piece of equipment goes

2559
02:14:47,270 --> 02:14:45,659
off uh could have been a fluke could it

2560
02:14:49,370 --> 02:14:47,280
have been a bug or something affecting

2561
02:14:52,010 --> 02:14:49,380
it but if you get more than one and the

2562
02:14:54,290 --> 02:14:52,020
more you get reacting at the same time

2563
02:14:56,750 --> 02:14:54,300
and we've got data recorders that will

2564
02:14:59,689 --> 02:14:56,760
track everything from humidity to

2565
02:15:01,490 --> 02:14:59,699
pressure to you know everything

2566
02:15:03,950 --> 02:15:01,500
temperature

2567
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:03,960
when that goes off and Records changes

2568
02:15:08,930 --> 02:15:05,760
when we're hearing a voice or getting an

2569
02:15:11,149 --> 02:15:08,940
EVP REM pods are going off motion

2570
02:15:13,669 --> 02:15:11,159
detectors are you know and something

2571
02:15:15,709 --> 02:15:13,679
shows up on a flear uh you know that's

2572
02:15:17,569 --> 02:15:15,719
when you can say okay this this wasn't

2573
02:15:19,729 --> 02:15:17,579
coincidence this happened for a reason

2574
02:15:23,390 --> 02:15:19,739
do you remember

2575
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:23,400
um uh when we were in The Churchill

2576
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:24,960
Suite

2577
02:15:33,470 --> 02:15:27,840
um we had a singer

2578
02:15:35,510 --> 02:15:33,480
right and she's saying and we had uh you

2579
02:15:37,330 --> 02:15:35,520
could better describe what we have but

2580
02:15:40,129 --> 02:15:37,340
we had devices

2581
02:15:44,450 --> 02:15:40,139
all around the room right right we had

2582
02:15:47,149 --> 02:15:44,460
REM pods we had K2 meters we had uh some

2583
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:47,159
sort of electromagnetic uh sensor that

2584
02:15:52,250 --> 02:15:48,719
sent up uh

2585
02:15:54,649 --> 02:15:52,260
a wave electricity up the the v-tube to

2586
02:15:58,490 --> 02:15:54,659
see if there's any Tesla coils we had

2587
02:16:01,910 --> 02:15:58,500
Tesla yeah and um so anyway right after

2588
02:16:05,810 --> 02:16:01,920
so we're all sitting there in the dark

2589
02:16:08,330 --> 02:16:05,820
man craziest thing ever so she finishes

2590
02:16:11,510 --> 02:16:08,340
singing and we're all set and all of a

2591
02:16:15,649 --> 02:16:11,520
sudden every single device in that room

2592
02:16:18,770 --> 02:16:15,659
lit up like the 4th of July yeah it

2593
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:18,780
literally was simultaneously it kind of

2594
02:16:21,770 --> 02:16:20,400
went across the room and I think even

2595
02:16:25,510 --> 02:16:21,780
the evox

2596
02:16:28,250 --> 02:16:25,520
almost sounded like clapping yes

2597
02:16:30,589 --> 02:16:28,260
and then all the lights just went crazy

2598
02:16:34,669 --> 02:16:30,599
everything was beeping and flashing and

2599
02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:34,679
it was nuts because uh for me

2600
02:16:40,969 --> 02:16:39,120
um uh a novice to the processes

2601
02:16:45,290 --> 02:16:40,979
um uh to see how

2602
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:45,300
um to to see the timing of it right she

2603
02:16:50,469 --> 02:16:47,280
finishes singing we're all sitting there

2604
02:16:53,629 --> 02:16:50,479
it's quiet and all of a sudden

2605
02:16:56,810 --> 02:16:53,639
everything lit up at the same time

2606
02:16:59,330 --> 02:16:56,820
something was in that room with us and

2607
02:17:01,009 --> 02:16:59,340
liked what I think

2608
02:17:03,469 --> 02:17:01,019
they thought she had a pretty good voice

2609
02:17:05,690 --> 02:17:03,479
then she did too by the way she was a

2610
02:17:07,849 --> 02:17:05,700
great singer yeah well the other real

2611
02:17:08,810 --> 02:17:07,859
interesting thing about that is if there

2612
02:17:10,969 --> 02:17:08,820
would have been some type of

2613
02:17:12,889 --> 02:17:10,979
interference like a walkie-talkie

2614
02:17:17,209 --> 02:17:12,899
because some of the people in the room

2615
02:17:19,849 --> 02:17:17,219
had him but the devices rotated it was

2616
02:17:23,629 --> 02:17:19,859
all relatively at the same time but not

2617
02:17:25,190 --> 02:17:23,639
exactly like if excuse me if somebody

2618
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:25,200
hit their walkie-talkie button

2619
02:17:29,270 --> 02:17:27,599
everything at the exact same moment

2620
02:17:31,370 --> 02:17:29,280
would have lit up and this kind of

2621
02:17:32,810 --> 02:17:31,380
staggered across it went around the room

2622
02:17:36,169 --> 02:17:32,820
yeah right

2623
02:17:38,389 --> 02:17:36,179
yeah yeah man that was so much fun that

2624
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:38,399
was that and that was a bucketless night

2625
02:17:43,790 --> 02:17:41,519
man there's one other thing

2626
02:17:47,209 --> 02:17:43,800
um I don't know if you were with us were

2627
02:17:50,330 --> 02:17:47,219
you up were you with us in the lounge on

2628
02:17:52,549 --> 02:17:50,340
the top floor no I was not with you on

2629
02:17:53,810 --> 02:17:52,559
that particular part of it we were in

2630
02:17:55,070 --> 02:17:53,820
the engine room

2631
02:17:57,650 --> 02:17:55,080
well

2632
02:17:58,790 --> 02:17:57,660
um okay here's this was another crazy

2633
02:18:01,129 --> 02:17:58,800
moment

2634
02:18:03,469 --> 02:18:01,139
um I don't know if I've told you I I

2635
02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:03,479
thought you were with us anyway so we've

2636
02:18:08,990 --> 02:18:05,280
got the same thing right another camera

2637
02:18:12,349 --> 02:18:09,000
crew and we're upstairs and we're in

2638
02:18:15,290 --> 02:18:12,359
this Lounge for probably an hour

2639
02:18:19,549 --> 02:18:15,300
and we were doing the Estus method right

2640
02:18:23,089 --> 02:18:19,559
okay and so we were done with that and

2641
02:18:26,570 --> 02:18:23,099
we were just sit now it it it's a lounge

2642
02:18:30,250 --> 02:18:26,580
right there's a piano over here and and

2643
02:18:33,530 --> 02:18:30,260
a bar uh to my right and the camera crew

2644
02:18:36,349 --> 02:18:33,540
again three or four cameras and and the

2645
02:18:38,690 --> 02:18:36,359
sound guy they're to my right but it in

2646
02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:38,700
the this side of the lounge deep in the

2647
02:18:42,530 --> 02:18:40,080
line it was dark

2648
02:18:46,429 --> 02:18:42,540
and I never really looked back there

2649
02:18:48,589 --> 02:18:46,439
because we were on one end doing this

2650
02:18:51,469 --> 02:18:48,599
session okay

2651
02:18:54,950 --> 02:18:51,479
so I sit back in the chair

2652
02:18:58,009 --> 02:18:54,960
and it's quiet and all of a sudden this

2653
02:19:02,089 --> 02:19:00,110
like

2654
02:19:05,330 --> 02:19:02,099
and I look at them there's a door back

2655
02:19:08,030 --> 02:19:05,340
and we all heard it and I spun around

2656
02:19:13,070 --> 02:19:08,040
and I get up in the cameraman follows

2657
02:19:15,650 --> 02:19:13,080
his follows me and uh we what I'm

2658
02:19:19,070 --> 02:19:15,660
looking there's it's a bathroom door

2659
02:19:21,830 --> 02:19:19,080
and I I open that up and then there's a

2660
02:19:23,469 --> 02:19:21,840
men's and women's bathroom in there uh

2661
02:19:27,650 --> 02:19:23,479
behind this door

2662
02:19:29,089 --> 02:19:27,660
and uh I I pushed out and I looked and

2663
02:19:31,549 --> 02:19:29,099
there's nobody in there

2664
02:19:33,709 --> 02:19:31,559
I'm now I'm kind of freaking out and

2665
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:33,719
then I go to the other door the women's

2666
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:36,719
bath there's nobody in there I go in

2667
02:19:41,330 --> 02:19:38,399
there with the camera people then I let

2668
02:19:43,129 --> 02:19:41,340
the door close I forget who was the

2669
02:19:47,089 --> 02:19:43,139
investigator that was with us with the

2670
02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:47,099
tats the famous guy uh that was um

2671
02:19:54,889 --> 02:19:50,640
oh he's gonna kill me if I yeah

2672
02:19:58,490 --> 02:19:54,899
um uh Patrick Doyle yeah yeah Doyle so

2673
02:20:01,610 --> 02:19:58,500
so he's he's sitting out there

2674
02:20:03,770 --> 02:20:01,620
and uh he's such a cool dude and I love

2675
02:20:06,170 --> 02:20:03,780
this I open this door and I let it and

2676
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:06,180
that was and he yells that's the door

2677
02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:09,600
that was the sound and something and

2678
02:20:15,770 --> 02:20:12,479
this was spring-loaded there's no way

2679
02:20:18,250 --> 02:20:15,780
right right it can't Randy's not gonna

2680
02:20:22,429 --> 02:20:18,260
do it no no no no you have to push it

2681
02:20:24,230 --> 02:20:22,439
and uh yeah yeah just

2682
02:20:26,570 --> 02:20:24,240
so that was the that was the women's

2683
02:20:29,210 --> 02:20:26,580
bathroom door yeah the women's bathroom

2684
02:20:31,310 --> 02:20:29,220
there's your answer she went from the

2685
02:20:33,710 --> 02:20:31,320
Queen Mary's bathroom now she's hanging

2686
02:20:36,830 --> 02:20:33,720
out in yours yeah right right yeah

2687
02:20:38,929 --> 02:20:36,840
exactly but yeah it was such a so much

2688
02:20:41,929 --> 02:20:38,939
fun to go through these experiences when

2689
02:20:43,910 --> 02:20:41,939
because you see it on TV you see it

2690
02:20:46,490 --> 02:20:43,920
you're like oh man come on it's a setup

2691
02:20:48,650 --> 02:20:46,500
it's uh it's the producers it's somebody

2692
02:20:51,410 --> 02:20:48,660
in the background some somebody's got a

2693
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:51,420
string they're pulling I I think those

2694
02:20:58,370 --> 02:20:54,960
thought we all do and then it happens

2695
02:21:02,030 --> 02:20:58,380
to you that's a whole nother

2696
02:21:04,870 --> 02:21:02,040
I mean that door closed by itself and I

2697
02:21:07,910 --> 02:21:04,880
jumped up immediately cameraman with me

2698
02:21:09,469 --> 02:21:07,920
two seconds after it happened I'm in

2699
02:21:11,389 --> 02:21:09,479
there there's nobody in there I didn't

2700
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:11,399
even know there was you know because it

2701
02:21:15,530 --> 02:21:12,960
was in the dark I didn't even know there

2702
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:15,540
was a door back there it was crazy I

2703
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:18,319
loved it man loved it okay

2704
02:21:25,010 --> 02:21:21,120
uh next

2705
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:25,020
I think this says treasure okay this

2706
02:21:28,969 --> 02:21:26,880
one's kind of long so you might want to

2707
02:21:32,270 --> 02:21:28,979
skip it if anybody wants to see it it is

2708
02:21:34,809 --> 02:21:32,280
on my uh is on my YouTube but this was

2709
02:21:37,130 --> 02:21:34,819
the first time ever

2710
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:37,140
that I've had

2711
02:21:41,570 --> 02:21:39,120
communication

2712
02:21:44,450 --> 02:21:41,580
normally I'm the one asking the

2713
02:21:47,210 --> 02:21:44,460
questions who am I speaking to are you

2714
02:21:51,849 --> 02:21:47,220
know what message do you have

2715
02:21:54,889 --> 02:21:51,859
in this one they're asking me questions

2716
02:21:57,530 --> 02:21:54,899
and I'll answer their question and then

2717
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:57,540
they wanted help and then they asked if

2718
02:22:02,990 --> 02:21:59,760
I could do them a favor and they were

2719
02:22:07,130 --> 02:22:03,000
talking about a buried treasure

2720
02:22:11,030 --> 02:22:07,140
and that they had done bad things and

2721
02:22:13,550 --> 02:22:11,040
they were trying to make it right and

2722
02:22:16,130 --> 02:22:13,560
it was insane but I think it's like six

2723
02:22:20,330 --> 02:22:16,140
or seven minutes so you may not want to

2724
02:22:26,030 --> 02:22:23,270
that's just that's that right there I'm

2725
02:22:35,290 --> 02:22:26,040
all about buried treasure okay here we

2726
02:22:35,300 --> 02:22:47,110
it's rational thank you yes it is

2727
02:22:47,120 --> 02:23:09,910
all right what else can you say for me

2728
02:23:15,950 --> 02:23:11,590
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

2729
02:23:22,190 --> 02:23:20,570
they literally said it's wrathman yep

2730
02:23:25,550 --> 02:23:22,200
Tony's back

2731
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:25,560
he's cool right right and then they

2732
02:23:30,650 --> 02:23:28,560
called you broth they I mean that's what

2733
02:23:34,250 --> 02:23:30,660
I heard yep and then they said something

2734
02:23:36,969 --> 02:23:34,260
like wrath makes it easy yeah

2735
02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:36,979
while they were they they sound

2736
02:23:41,210 --> 02:23:39,420
extremely guilty and as you play it

2737
02:23:44,270 --> 02:23:41,220
further you'll you I think you'll

2738
02:23:46,550 --> 02:23:44,280
understand why but it's like they did

2739
02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:46,560
something bad in life and they've

2740
02:23:52,610 --> 02:23:49,520
probably been holding it for 100 years

2741
02:23:56,570 --> 02:23:52,620
150 years and here was an opportunity

2742
02:23:58,130 --> 02:23:56,580
for them to like Let It Out explain what

2743
02:24:00,190 --> 02:23:58,140
happened because they say something

2744
02:24:02,750 --> 02:24:00,200
about you're you're not the you know

2745
02:24:04,309 --> 02:24:02,760
wrath makes it easy and then the next

2746
02:24:06,889 --> 02:24:04,319
line coming up is something about well

2747
02:24:09,170 --> 02:24:06,899
he's not the victim meaning that people

2748
02:24:11,889 --> 02:24:09,180
were probably hurt in whatever this

2749
02:24:14,690 --> 02:24:11,899
treasure was but it just keeps going

2750
02:24:17,530 --> 02:24:14,700
this is this is the best one yet okay

2751
02:24:22,929 --> 02:24:19,910
do you like being able to speak with me

2752
02:24:22,939 --> 02:24:28,690
yes good

2753
02:24:28,700 --> 02:24:34,610
do you have a message for someone

2754
02:24:34,620 --> 02:24:45,050
thank you depends what does it depend on

2755
02:24:45,060 --> 02:24:49,929
who do you have a message for

2756
02:25:24,429 --> 02:25:02,110
me

2757
02:25:33,550 --> 02:25:26,590
patience okay

2758
02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:37,389
patients

2759
02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:40,910
do you have any message for me they're

2760
02:25:45,170 --> 02:25:42,960
lying to you

2761
02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:45,180
so it's like they started to tell about

2762
02:25:51,110 --> 02:25:47,760
this treasure and what happened and

2763
02:25:52,849 --> 02:25:51,120
others were saying no no stop

2764
02:25:55,370 --> 02:25:52,859
and then they're like they're lying to

2765
02:25:56,990 --> 02:25:55,380
you and so there was conflict okay

2766
02:25:59,210 --> 02:25:57,000
because there's multiple voices there

2767
02:26:01,309 --> 02:25:59,220
there was conflict between the group

2768
02:26:04,849 --> 02:26:01,319
about what should be said and what

2769
02:26:06,889 --> 02:26:04,859
shouldn't be said somebody just look at

2770
02:26:10,010 --> 02:26:06,899
this hold on

2771
02:26:12,710 --> 02:26:10,020
hold on let me find it right here

2772
02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:12,720
I just heard them say delivered in Jimmy

2773
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:13,120
Church

2774
02:26:17,590 --> 02:26:14,960
[Laughter]

2775
02:26:22,010 --> 02:26:17,600
yeah I got pizza coming

2776
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:22,020
yeah I would lose my mind

2777
02:26:25,910 --> 02:26:24,000
if I heard something like that okay here

2778
02:26:29,210 --> 02:26:25,920
we I don't know how you deal with

2779
02:26:37,330 --> 02:26:29,220
hey man it's wrath okay it's cool it's

2780
02:26:37,340 --> 02:26:55,270
yes what's my message

2781
02:26:55,280 --> 02:27:01,010
can you tell me what the message is

2782
02:27:01,020 --> 02:27:14,349
here

2783
02:27:14,359 --> 02:27:22,969
I heard you say Tony yes I'm listening

2784
02:27:26,630 --> 02:27:25,010
it's a favor sure you guys have been

2785
02:27:36,610 --> 02:27:26,640
good to me I'll be good to you what do

2786
02:27:53,530 --> 02:27:39,050
what can I help with

2787
02:28:06,230 --> 02:27:59,230
treasure

2788
02:28:10,429 --> 02:28:06,240
okay that's that's that that's insane

2789
02:28:13,790 --> 02:28:10,439
yeah I know that's insane right there

2790
02:28:16,550 --> 02:28:13,800
they said treasure three times yep and

2791
02:28:18,650 --> 02:28:16,560
you said did you say treasure clear

2792
02:28:22,010 --> 02:28:18,660
Isabel yes we did

2793
02:28:24,590 --> 02:28:22,020
yep it's it's the most incredible system

2794
02:28:26,330 --> 02:28:24,600
or method I should say

2795
02:28:27,889 --> 02:28:26,340
I've ever experienced and like I said

2796
02:28:30,110 --> 02:28:27,899
we've been dealing with Spirit boxes for

2797
02:28:33,050 --> 02:28:30,120
12 years but this

2798
02:28:35,630 --> 02:28:33,060
I mean this was a this was a five or six

2799
02:28:38,330 --> 02:28:35,640
minute conversation

2800
02:28:44,889 --> 02:28:38,340
this is crazy okay let's let's get this

2801
02:28:44,899 --> 02:28:54,849
ERS

2802
02:28:54,859 --> 02:29:05,090
what favor can I do for you

2803
02:29:10,910 --> 02:29:09,170
what yeah again difference of opinion on

2804
02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:10,920
what they should be saying because that

2805
02:29:17,870 --> 02:29:13,760
woman was like shut up

2806
02:29:26,270 --> 02:29:17,880
she says shut the hell up yep okay let's

2807
02:29:48,910 --> 02:29:28,190
well I don't want to I like speaking to

2808
02:29:55,429 --> 02:29:52,730
we need tenants I have no idea what that

2809
02:29:58,190 --> 02:29:55,439
means but the thing is he's human that's

2810
02:30:02,510 --> 02:29:58,200
the second time on drv I've heard that

2811
02:30:07,370 --> 02:30:02,520
and again I'm thinking then who are you

2812
02:30:11,450 --> 02:30:07,380
okay uh let's go into overtime

2813
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:11,460
um I've got uh some more EVPs but I've

2814
02:30:14,870 --> 02:30:13,680
got more questions that I need answers

2815
02:30:16,790 --> 02:30:14,880
to

2816
02:30:20,090 --> 02:30:16,800
um by the way how's how's Cherie

2817
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:20,100
everything good she's doing great

2818
02:30:27,410 --> 02:30:23,520
um you know it's October we have we have

2819
02:30:29,750 --> 02:30:27,420
things to do for pericons and I'll be

2820
02:30:32,210 --> 02:30:29,760
doing multiple lectures on this she's

2821
02:30:33,830 --> 02:30:32,220
coming with me to all of it and you know

2822
02:30:35,110 --> 02:30:33,840
like I said it's October we're in our

2823
02:30:37,610 --> 02:30:35,120
Glory

2824
02:30:39,370 --> 02:30:37,620
real quick before I get to the break do

2825
02:30:41,330 --> 02:30:39,380
you guys decorate

2826
02:30:44,690 --> 02:30:41,340
we didn't

2827
02:30:47,870 --> 02:30:44,700
do much yet but I'm sure if we have time

2828
02:30:50,570 --> 02:30:47,880
we always do so she loves she absolutely

2829
02:30:52,010 --> 02:30:50,580
loves to decorate yeah yeah it's it's my

2830
02:30:53,270 --> 02:30:52,020
favorite thing to do it's my favorite

2831
02:30:55,130 --> 02:30:53,280
thing to do all right let's take our

2832
02:30:57,170 --> 02:30:55,140
break right here this is Fade to Black

2833
02:31:01,510 --> 02:30:57,180
Tony rathman is our guest it's Halloween

2834
02:31:04,250 --> 02:31:01,520
for the rest of the month all the way to

2835
02:31:08,270 --> 02:31:04,260
October 31st Halloween night it will be

2836
02:31:10,250 --> 02:31:08,280
the X one year anniversary special and

2837
02:31:12,830 --> 02:31:10,260
we're going to broadcast right here from

2838
02:31:14,929 --> 02:31:12,840
Fade to Black I'll be right back after

2839
02:31:16,260 --> 02:31:14,939
this short break I'm your assuming

2840
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:16,270
Church stay with us

2841
02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:30,170
[Music]

2842
02:31:35,330 --> 02:31:31,450
[Applause]

2843
02:31:39,469 --> 02:31:35,340
[Music]

2844
02:31:49,389 --> 02:31:41,870
you're listening to Chevy church and

2845
02:31:57,370 --> 02:31:52,070
here and you are listening to my boy

2846
02:32:07,730 --> 02:31:59,990
despite popular opinion

2847
02:32:13,309 --> 02:32:10,070
hello fadernauts Jimmy church here

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them it's called a thunderstorm because

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2936
02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:31,680
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2937
02:36:40,130 --> 02:36:35,520
I gotta tell you I've had a crazy month

2938
02:36:45,650 --> 02:36:40,140
Egypt look out tanned I am

2939
02:36:48,410 --> 02:36:45,660
oh man Egypt now uh to to top off my

2940
02:36:52,250 --> 02:36:48,420
crazy crazy month I've got Tony rathman

2941
02:36:55,610 --> 02:36:52,260
freaking me out tonight live on the air

2942
02:36:57,770 --> 02:36:55,620
um Tony uh now here

2943
02:37:00,410 --> 02:36:57,780
um here you've given

2944
02:37:02,990 --> 02:37:00,420
everybody a recipe you've given them a

2945
02:37:06,250 --> 02:37:03,000
road map right you've given them the

2946
02:37:10,429 --> 02:37:06,260
frequency how to do it World band radio

2947
02:37:13,730 --> 02:37:10,439
uh in and out into a laptop get yourself

2948
02:37:15,650 --> 02:37:13,740
a couple of plug-ins uh to clean up uh

2949
02:37:19,450 --> 02:37:15,660
the white noise and you can have a

2950
02:37:22,730 --> 02:37:19,460
real-time uh conversation with something

2951
02:37:25,190 --> 02:37:22,740
right is is this safe

2952
02:37:27,650 --> 02:37:25,200
I mean are you inviting something in

2953
02:37:30,770 --> 02:37:27,660
well yeah I mean you take that risk

2954
02:37:33,050 --> 02:37:30,780
absolutely and do we know what we're

2955
02:37:36,230 --> 02:37:33,060
inviting in no we don't and those are

2956
02:37:38,570 --> 02:37:36,240
the variables within the Paranormal but

2957
02:37:40,610 --> 02:37:38,580
you know I've been using Spirit boxes

2958
02:37:43,790 --> 02:37:40,620
for the last 12 years have I had

2959
02:37:46,130 --> 02:37:43,800
anything really really bad happen no so

2960
02:37:47,870 --> 02:37:46,140
but is it a risk absolutely it is you

2961
02:37:50,090 --> 02:37:47,880
have to know that you have to be

2962
02:37:51,830 --> 02:37:50,100
prepared to deal with it and you want to

2963
02:37:53,150 --> 02:37:51,840
have the support of people that can help

2964
02:37:56,150 --> 02:37:53,160
if needed

2965
02:37:58,429 --> 02:37:56,160
uh is this where you kind of need a

2966
02:38:00,889 --> 02:37:58,439
disclaimer you know leave this to the

2967
02:38:02,530 --> 02:38:00,899
professionals and I'm not I'm not being

2968
02:38:06,650 --> 02:38:02,540
Cavalier here

2969
02:38:09,290 --> 02:38:06,660
right technically technically yes but at

2970
02:38:10,809 --> 02:38:09,300
the same time the more people that can

2971
02:38:14,389 --> 02:38:10,819
replicate

2972
02:38:16,730 --> 02:38:14,399
the what's being obtained

2973
02:38:18,830 --> 02:38:16,740
the more credible it becomes I mean

2974
02:38:19,730 --> 02:38:18,840
somebody watching this can say well you

2975
02:38:23,210 --> 02:38:19,740
know

2976
02:38:24,650 --> 02:38:23,220
I haven't seen that happen so do I want

2977
02:38:26,690 --> 02:38:24,660
to give a disclaimer that says hey do

2978
02:38:28,610 --> 02:38:26,700
this at your own risk there is a risk no

2979
02:38:30,349 --> 02:38:28,620
doubt about it you have to be aware of

2980
02:38:33,309 --> 02:38:30,359
that but the more people that can

2981
02:38:36,590 --> 02:38:33,319
duplicate the same type of responses

2982
02:38:39,230 --> 02:38:36,600
gives additional proof to the method and

2983
02:38:42,770 --> 02:38:39,240
that always helps I mean I I haven't

2984
02:38:46,070 --> 02:38:42,780
been this excited of the process in in a

2985
02:38:47,630 --> 02:38:46,080
long time this is me this is pretty it's

2986
02:38:49,610 --> 02:38:47,640
pretty incredible it's pretty impressive

2987
02:38:52,370 --> 02:38:49,620
but then you're going to have the doofus

2988
02:38:56,809 --> 02:38:52,380
out there all right man let's let's talk

2989
02:39:01,969 --> 02:38:59,090
you absolutely will and could that cause

2990
02:39:03,710 --> 02:39:01,979
them some severe damage yeah it could it

2991
02:39:06,710 --> 02:39:03,720
absolutely could

2992
02:39:10,849 --> 02:39:06,720
um uh I've I was watching the comments

2993
02:39:14,450 --> 02:39:10,859
and I I really appreciate uh this

2994
02:39:16,730 --> 02:39:14,460
that there's a real possibility that you

2995
02:39:19,610 --> 02:39:16,740
may be just talking to E.T

2996
02:39:22,730 --> 02:39:19,620
possibly absolutely possible

2997
02:39:25,370 --> 02:39:22,740
the human's comment right

2998
02:39:27,830 --> 02:39:25,380
right well when anyone who's had an

2999
02:39:30,050 --> 02:39:27,840
extraterrestrial experience one of the

3000
02:39:31,910 --> 02:39:30,060
things that's so common is they were

3001
02:39:33,410 --> 02:39:31,920
communicating with me but their lips

3002
02:39:35,170 --> 02:39:33,420
didn't move but I could hear what they

3003
02:39:37,250 --> 02:39:35,180
were saying right so even

3004
02:39:40,309 --> 02:39:37,260
extraterrestrials have some form of

3005
02:39:42,950 --> 02:39:40,319
telepathy to be able to do that so could

3006
02:39:47,870 --> 02:39:42,960
they easily interact with an electronic

3007
02:39:53,030 --> 02:39:50,469
sounds within a white noise Broadband

3008
02:39:57,469 --> 02:39:53,040
absolutely they could

3009
02:40:01,010 --> 02:39:57,479
and I've in in in a strange way it it's

3010
02:40:04,070 --> 02:40:01,020
very similar to the Estus method

3011
02:40:07,010 --> 02:40:04,080
um in that uh you you're listening to

3012
02:40:10,010 --> 02:40:07,020
White Noise there too as well into your

3013
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:10,020
hearing stuff uh come through but you're

3014
02:40:15,230 --> 02:40:12,960
also what's the word um I'm I'm I'm I'm

3015
02:40:17,389 --> 02:40:15,240
looking for

3016
02:40:19,610 --> 02:40:17,399
um you're separated from reality right

3017
02:40:22,610 --> 02:40:19,620
because you have

3018
02:40:25,250 --> 02:40:22,620
um uh a face mask on you can't see

3019
02:40:29,030 --> 02:40:25,260
you're totally disconnected

3020
02:40:32,410 --> 02:40:29,040
um and it forces you into

3021
02:40:35,510 --> 02:40:32,420
um a subconscious dream state almost

3022
02:40:38,990 --> 02:40:35,520
correct the only difference between the

3023
02:40:41,690 --> 02:40:39,000
Estes method and drv is that the SC

3024
02:40:45,230 --> 02:40:41,700
method use uses a Spirit Box radio which

3025
02:40:49,010 --> 02:40:45,240
is literally scanning radio stations drv

3026
02:40:51,710 --> 02:40:49,020
does not scan right anything or any AM

3027
02:40:53,929 --> 02:40:51,720
FM radio station we those frequencies

3028
02:40:57,349 --> 02:40:53,939
are not even part of this equation

3029
02:40:59,690 --> 02:40:57,359
yeah and this is obviously it's it's a

3030
02:41:01,610 --> 02:40:59,700
real-time conversation right it's

3031
02:41:04,969 --> 02:41:01,620
question and answer in real time very

3032
02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:04,979
impressive very impressive uh like I

3033
02:41:10,010 --> 02:41:07,200
said I hope Ron yakavedi is the one who

3034
02:41:11,450 --> 02:41:10,020
literally taught me to do it so he and

3035
02:41:12,650 --> 02:41:11,460
he's written a couple of books on I

3036
02:41:15,349 --> 02:41:12,660
think he's on his third book already

3037
02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:15,359
about his Adventure down this down this

3038
02:41:21,889 --> 02:41:17,760
road so very very impressed and pleased

3039
02:41:24,349 --> 02:41:21,899
he uh showed me how to do it now uh so

3040
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:24,359
here's here's the other thing if you're

3041
02:41:29,990 --> 02:41:27,359
gonna go into whatever Waverly right

3042
02:41:32,050 --> 02:41:30,000
you're going to go to one of these uh

3043
02:41:37,270 --> 02:41:32,060
famous locations

3044
02:41:42,590 --> 02:41:39,410
in the locale

3045
02:41:44,450 --> 02:41:42,600
right geographically at that spot like

3046
02:41:46,610 --> 02:41:44,460
this last session you said was in the

3047
02:41:49,490 --> 02:41:46,620
courthouse correct

3048
02:41:51,070 --> 02:41:49,500
and yes I mean if you're if you're doing

3049
02:41:54,290 --> 02:41:51,080
this at a location

3050
02:41:56,570 --> 02:41:54,300
you but does that mean what's

3051
02:41:59,090 --> 02:41:56,580
communicating with you is that that

3052
02:42:02,050 --> 02:41:59,100
location no it actually doesn't they are

3053
02:42:05,570 --> 02:42:02,060
not bound by any of our

3054
02:42:07,849 --> 02:42:05,580
dimensional time or space and they can

3055
02:42:10,130 --> 02:42:07,859
communicate from wherever they are it's

3056
02:42:11,630 --> 02:42:10,140
like us sending out an email doesn't

3057
02:42:14,030 --> 02:42:11,640
matter whether you're sending it across

3058
02:42:17,510 --> 02:42:14,040
the street or across the world

3059
02:42:20,450 --> 02:42:17,520
it functions in a manner where space is

3060
02:42:22,190 --> 02:42:20,460
is irrelevant to to sending a an email

3061
02:42:23,929 --> 02:42:22,200
well it's the same thing with

3062
02:42:26,210 --> 02:42:23,939
communicating with a spirit they can be

3063
02:42:29,870 --> 02:42:26,220
communicating with you from any location

3064
02:42:32,630 --> 02:42:29,880
how does this change your approach uh to

3065
02:42:35,290 --> 02:42:32,640
not only an investigation but the

3066
02:42:38,389 --> 02:42:35,300
questions that you're asking

3067
02:42:41,690 --> 02:42:38,399
you know if you if you've got a recorder

3068
02:42:43,969 --> 02:42:41,700
and you're doing an EVP you're asking a

3069
02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:43,979
question hoping for a response you can't

3070
02:42:51,710 --> 02:42:48,240
hear it yet right but this is different

3071
02:42:54,770 --> 02:42:51,720
you are able to interact in real time so

3072
02:42:57,290 --> 02:42:54,780
how does it change your approach uh to

3073
02:42:59,510 --> 02:42:57,300
an investigation well it changes

3074
02:43:01,969 --> 02:42:59,520
everything because you're not looking

3075
02:43:03,950 --> 02:43:01,979
for the a one or two word answer which

3076
02:43:06,830 --> 02:43:03,960
technically on a Spirit Box you are you

3077
02:43:08,929 --> 02:43:06,840
can ask complicated questions and get

3078
02:43:10,730 --> 02:43:08,939
just as complicated of an answer in

3079
02:43:13,490 --> 02:43:10,740
return

3080
02:43:15,710 --> 02:43:13,500
um You Can Shed the light of saying okay

3081
02:43:18,110 --> 02:43:15,720
what what year did you what year did

3082
02:43:19,670 --> 02:43:18,120
this happen or who was president getting

3083
02:43:22,730 --> 02:43:19,680
that one word answer you can ask

3084
02:43:24,830 --> 02:43:22,740
questions like tell me about your tell

3085
02:43:28,490 --> 02:43:24,840
me about where you are what's your world

3086
02:43:31,250 --> 02:43:28,500
look like what if you know you know

3087
02:43:35,030 --> 02:43:31,260
do you happen to know what year it is or

3088
02:43:37,309 --> 02:43:35,040
you know you can you can expand Way

3089
02:43:39,410 --> 02:43:37,319
Beyond what you can expect to get from a

3090
02:43:41,630 --> 02:43:39,420
one or two word response

3091
02:43:43,849 --> 02:43:41,640
and it opens up so many other doors too

3092
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:43,859
that the Mind literally just shatters

3093
02:43:50,150 --> 02:43:46,319
when the when the thought of what could

3094
02:43:52,849 --> 02:43:50,160
possibly be obtained I I've done

3095
02:43:56,510 --> 02:43:52,859
um uh some

3096
02:43:58,370 --> 02:43:56,520
EVP sessions right with a you know I

3097
02:44:01,750 --> 02:43:58,380
have my own digital recorders and I've

3098
02:44:04,010 --> 02:44:01,760
done them uh with others uh with their

3099
02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:04,020
everybody's got their personal favorite

3100
02:44:07,730 --> 02:44:06,240
right that they've used

3101
02:44:12,110 --> 02:44:07,740
um but

3102
02:44:14,450 --> 02:44:12,120
you ask the question you go silent

3103
02:44:17,870 --> 02:44:14,460
and then you have to play it back and

3104
02:44:19,490 --> 02:44:17,880
you have to hear if if now I've caught

3105
02:44:21,950 --> 02:44:19,500
it you know and I've had it happen in

3106
02:44:24,590 --> 02:44:21,960
real time but it slows the process down

3107
02:44:26,750 --> 02:44:24,600
it stops the process Because by the time

3108
02:44:29,150 --> 02:44:26,760
you hear it you're probably not even

3109
02:44:31,370 --> 02:44:29,160
there and even if you play it there the

3110
02:44:33,230 --> 02:44:31,380
Link's been broken and you gotta you

3111
02:44:36,110 --> 02:44:33,240
gotta start all over to continue a

3112
02:44:39,950 --> 02:44:36,120
conversation right and there's no uh of

3113
02:44:43,070 --> 02:44:39,960
uh freedom of thought right the flow is

3114
02:44:46,130 --> 02:44:43,080
gone it's fun to do but this is

3115
02:44:48,349 --> 02:44:46,140
different this is literally a

3116
02:44:51,230 --> 02:44:48,359
conversation in real time it's it's very

3117
02:44:53,389 --> 02:44:51,240
impressive thank you all right let's go

3118
02:44:54,889 --> 02:44:53,399
to uh let's see what we have next

3119
02:45:00,530 --> 02:44:54,899
uh

3120
02:45:02,510 --> 02:45:00,540
guilty or not guilty

3121
02:45:04,190 --> 02:45:02,520
this was a question asked in the

3122
02:45:06,469 --> 02:45:04,200
courthouse and this is the response that

3123
02:45:08,630 --> 02:45:06,479
came through drv I think it was either

3124
02:45:10,250 --> 02:45:08,640
myself or Cherie I can't remember one of

3125
02:45:12,230 --> 02:45:10,260
us asked

3126
02:45:14,929 --> 02:45:12,240
um were you guilty or not guilty and

3127
02:45:19,610 --> 02:45:14,939
this is what came through okay let me

3128
02:45:24,349 --> 02:45:19,620
see I think it's this one

3129
02:45:24,359 --> 02:45:29,150
foreign

3130
02:45:29,160 --> 02:45:39,770
were you guilty or not guilty

3131
02:45:44,630 --> 02:45:43,250
get shut the front door

3132
02:45:46,969 --> 02:45:44,640
when

3133
02:45:50,090 --> 02:45:46,979
it's just it's like having a

3134
02:45:52,670 --> 02:45:50,100
conversation now does it stay like that

3135
02:45:54,530 --> 02:45:52,680
it it'll maybe a couple of minutes it

3136
02:45:56,929 --> 02:45:54,540
depends you know sometimes the answers

3137
02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:56,939
will keep coming sometimes they drop off

3138
02:46:01,670 --> 02:45:59,520
but I mean talking about timing and

3139
02:46:05,809 --> 02:46:01,680
relevance what did I ask were you guilty

3140
02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:05,819
or not guilty guilty right and you know

3141
02:46:10,910 --> 02:46:07,920
we don't say

3142
02:46:12,889 --> 02:46:10,920
um we are we keep it simple the answer

3143
02:46:16,130 --> 02:46:12,899
was there and he repeated it and then

3144
02:46:18,830 --> 02:46:16,140
somebody said stop like stop giving him

3145
02:46:21,190 --> 02:46:18,840
information but it was guilty guilty

3146
02:46:24,530 --> 02:46:21,200
stop

3147
02:46:27,410 --> 02:46:24,540
I'm gonna play this again because I want

3148
02:46:31,690 --> 02:46:27,420
everybody to to listen

3149
02:46:37,730 --> 02:46:35,270
everybody look at Tony's hat let's play

3150
02:46:39,910 --> 02:46:37,740
this again Tony's been sitting there for

3151
02:46:44,090 --> 02:46:39,920
a minute

3152
02:46:46,010 --> 02:46:44,100
this is this is the real side of a

3153
02:46:48,290 --> 02:46:46,020
paranormal investigation everybody look

3154
02:46:49,910 --> 02:46:48,300
at Tony's demeanor here we go you spend

3155
02:46:56,530 --> 02:46:49,920
time in the jail

3156
02:46:56,540 --> 02:47:08,809
were you guilty or not guilty

3157
02:47:15,170 --> 02:47:12,590
that's that's that's insane it is it

3158
02:47:18,170 --> 02:47:15,180
absolutely is it like I said this

3159
02:47:20,270 --> 02:47:18,180
methodology of doing this

3160
02:47:23,150 --> 02:47:20,280
um has produced results that I never

3161
02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:23,160
even thought would be possible and so

3162
02:47:30,830 --> 02:47:25,920
the excitement level and and I love the

3163
02:47:33,650 --> 02:47:30,840
fact that Ron taught me Ron's uh uh a

3164
02:47:36,349 --> 02:47:33,660
paranormal host with me on entity voices

3165
02:47:39,969 --> 02:47:36,359
we've actually run live shows just doing

3166
02:47:43,309 --> 02:47:39,979
drv but the plans for so many other

3167
02:47:45,230 --> 02:47:43,319
tests to see what this thing can do is

3168
02:47:47,770 --> 02:47:45,240
just mind-blowing and I can't wait to

3169
02:47:51,469 --> 02:47:47,780
start going down that path

3170
02:47:55,490 --> 02:47:51,479
what's what's next I mean because this

3171
02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:55,500
opens up so many doors right now it's

3172
02:48:01,730 --> 02:47:58,560
like whatever you can imagine uh on a

3173
02:48:03,950 --> 02:48:01,740
ghost hunt it appears you can do it now

3174
02:48:07,010 --> 02:48:03,960
under the right circumstances and the

3175
02:48:10,969 --> 02:48:07,020
right connectivity yes does it happen

3176
02:48:13,730 --> 02:48:10,979
every time no but when it does you know

3177
02:48:15,650 --> 02:48:13,740
you'll get a response that tells you the

3178
02:48:17,389 --> 02:48:15,660
connection's been made and then you

3179
02:48:19,610 --> 02:48:17,399
start asking questions or sometimes I

3180
02:48:21,650 --> 02:48:19,620
know Ron will do this in front of groups

3181
02:48:24,230 --> 02:48:21,660
which I'm going to do my first one this

3182
02:48:25,990 --> 02:48:24,240
weekend or second one

3183
02:48:29,570 --> 02:48:26,000
but the people will ask him questions

3184
02:48:31,849 --> 02:48:29,580
and they get responses that are both

3185
02:48:34,790 --> 02:48:31,859
relevant and timing to the question they

3186
02:48:37,010 --> 02:48:34,800
ask from people that you know Ron

3187
02:48:39,170 --> 02:48:37,020
wouldn't have any idea who it is that's

3188
02:48:40,790 --> 02:48:39,180
answering but yet it would answer a

3189
02:48:43,130 --> 02:48:40,800
question by someone in the audience

3190
02:48:44,809 --> 02:48:43,140
asking that was relevant to the question

3191
02:48:46,969 --> 02:48:44,819
that person asked

3192
02:48:51,290 --> 02:48:46,979
just thought of something

3193
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:56,030
no you don't need a quiet room nope

3194
02:49:01,730 --> 02:48:58,800
you don't need all those obstacles that

3195
02:49:03,530 --> 02:49:01,740
were in the past right right and you

3196
02:49:05,809 --> 02:49:03,540
don't have to worry about people and I

3197
02:49:07,070 --> 02:49:05,819
see it going through the chat questions

3198
02:49:08,330 --> 02:49:07,080
all the time people are saying well how

3199
02:49:10,910 --> 02:49:08,340
do you know you're not picking up stray

3200
02:49:13,429 --> 02:49:10,920
radio well am and FM frequencies don't

3201
02:49:15,410 --> 02:49:13,439
don't transmit on fourteen thousand four

3202
02:49:19,070 --> 02:49:15,420
hundred there is no radio

3203
02:49:21,410 --> 02:49:19,080
so and you're getting voices from a

3204
02:49:24,170 --> 02:49:21,420
frequency that literally could not

3205
02:49:27,410 --> 02:49:24,180
transmit vocals

3206
02:49:28,370 --> 02:49:27,420
Morris code beeps and chirps but not

3207
02:49:29,170 --> 02:49:28,380
right right right right right right

3208
02:49:33,530 --> 02:49:29,180
right

3209
02:49:36,410 --> 02:49:33,540
and uh again the the other uh I mean

3210
02:49:39,950 --> 02:49:36,420
huge obstacle in all these paranormal

3211
02:49:42,710 --> 02:49:39,960
investigations is you ask a question and

3212
02:49:45,950 --> 02:49:42,720
everybody's got to shut up

3213
02:49:48,830 --> 02:49:45,960
you can't have your your audiophile

3214
02:49:51,110 --> 02:49:48,840
polluted by somebody speaking in the

3215
02:49:55,190 --> 02:49:51,120
background right or somebody upstairs

3216
02:49:57,170 --> 02:49:55,200
that that is not in play here nope you

3217
02:49:59,929 --> 02:49:57,180
don't have to work that's that's nuts

3218
02:50:05,150 --> 02:50:02,690
it's cool stuff I I I am absolutely

3219
02:50:07,610 --> 02:50:05,160
blown away every time I use it

3220
02:50:09,110 --> 02:50:07,620
um we have caught stuff that you know

3221
02:50:11,990 --> 02:50:09,120
and it just it just opens up the doors

3222
02:50:15,889 --> 02:50:12,000
my mind just spins with with tests and

3223
02:50:17,809 --> 02:50:15,899
and other things we want to try now you

3224
02:50:20,889 --> 02:50:17,819
just mentioned uh so I'm gonna Circle

3225
02:50:24,410 --> 02:50:20,899
back uh I don't want this to get past us

3226
02:50:25,969 --> 02:50:24,420
now you can have real-time audience

3227
02:50:28,010 --> 02:50:25,979
participation

3228
02:50:31,309 --> 02:50:28,020
correct

3229
02:50:34,250 --> 02:50:31,319
question

3230
02:50:36,770 --> 02:50:34,260
and the direct radio voice the responses

3231
02:50:39,349 --> 02:50:36,780
come through just as if I asked it or

3232
02:50:41,809 --> 02:50:39,359
Ron asked it and they get an answer to

3233
02:50:45,050 --> 02:50:41,819
their question

3234
02:50:47,330 --> 02:50:45,060
um Ron's got literally clip after clip

3235
02:50:50,389 --> 02:50:47,340
after Clift where they give some answer

3236
02:50:52,610 --> 02:50:50,399
about family members or just information

3237
02:50:55,990 --> 02:50:52,620
that would literally be

3238
02:50:59,330 --> 02:50:56,000
impossible to be by random chance

3239
02:51:01,250 --> 02:50:59,340
mathematically impossible and it's just

3240
02:51:04,030 --> 02:51:01,260
it's crazy

3241
02:51:08,450 --> 02:51:04,040
uh what um

3242
02:51:12,290 --> 02:51:08,460
are you able to Define

3243
02:51:17,450 --> 02:51:12,300
um a time period in that when you're

3244
02:51:22,130 --> 02:51:17,460
doing this is it generally uh 20th

3245
02:51:24,170 --> 02:51:22,140
century you know 21st century or have

3246
02:51:28,570 --> 02:51:24,180
you heard stuff

3247
02:51:31,910 --> 02:51:28,580
from the distant past 1700s 1600s

3248
02:51:34,490 --> 02:51:31,920
there are responses that probably go

3249
02:51:40,849 --> 02:51:36,889
well we've had ones from 21st century

3250
02:51:47,770 --> 02:51:44,150
18th century but like I said it always

3251
02:51:51,050 --> 02:51:47,780
seems to drop off on that in that range

3252
02:51:53,630 --> 02:51:51,060
but uh again that brings back the point

3253
02:51:56,330 --> 02:51:53,640
I was saying that are there are there

3254
02:51:59,389 --> 02:51:56,340
planes where certain groups of people

3255
02:52:01,190 --> 02:51:59,399
are put together and how come we've

3256
02:52:03,950 --> 02:52:01,200
never hit one of the other planes or but

3257
02:52:06,469 --> 02:52:03,960
but yes there are there are limitations

3258
02:52:08,750 --> 02:52:06,479
within that time frame that we usually

3259
02:52:12,710 --> 02:52:08,760
get answers from

3260
02:52:17,630 --> 02:52:12,720
I take a look at the chat is that Ron

3261
02:52:19,730 --> 02:52:17,640
that was Ron yep how you doing Ron good

3262
02:52:23,510 --> 02:52:19,740
stuff sir

3263
02:52:25,550 --> 02:52:23,520
um let me uh read uh if if you haven't

3264
02:52:27,050 --> 02:52:25,560
seen this well to everybody else has

3265
02:52:31,070 --> 02:52:27,060
done in the chat

3266
02:52:33,889 --> 02:52:31,080
this is Ron Ron yakavetti he says the

3267
02:52:36,889 --> 02:52:33,899
channel is vacant talking about the

3268
02:52:39,950 --> 02:52:36,899
frequency he says if there was any

3269
02:52:42,830 --> 02:52:39,960
broadcast vocal presence you'd hear it

3270
02:52:47,030 --> 02:52:42,840
from the jump yeah it's a really good

3271
02:52:49,130 --> 02:52:47,040
point yep he says I always play the

3272
02:52:51,650 --> 02:52:49,140
vacant channel for the audience before

3273
02:52:53,510 --> 02:52:51,660
starting so they can hear it's empty

3274
02:52:57,710 --> 02:52:53,520
white noise

3275
02:52:59,809 --> 02:52:57,720
another good point a point that

3276
02:53:01,370 --> 02:52:59,819
Tony didn't bring up earlier that would

3277
02:53:03,769 --> 02:53:01,380
have clarified a lot of things Tony if

3278
02:53:06,290 --> 02:53:03,779
you would have

3279
02:53:08,809 --> 02:53:06,300
it's a wide range of things that but it

3280
02:53:11,090 --> 02:53:08,819
separates it so nicely from like a

3281
02:53:13,010 --> 02:53:11,100
Spirit box and all these things work in

3282
02:53:15,230 --> 02:53:13,020
our favor to show that this is something

3283
02:53:17,750 --> 02:53:15,240
very paranormal

3284
02:53:20,690 --> 02:53:17,760
and and and then Ron continues with this

3285
02:53:24,290 --> 02:53:20,700
he says ITC is meant to be real-time

3286
02:53:26,510 --> 02:53:24,300
dialogue versus EVP record and review

3287
02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:26,520
which is exactly what we were just

3288
02:53:30,050 --> 02:53:27,600
talking about

3289
02:53:32,510 --> 02:53:30,060
correct correct so it takes everything

3290
02:53:35,389 --> 02:53:32,520
you would do to an EVP to try to clarify

3291
02:53:36,650 --> 02:53:35,399
it to try to make it so it's you can

3292
02:53:40,309 --> 02:53:36,660
hear it

3293
02:53:42,769 --> 02:53:40,319
we do this all in real time so Iran even

3294
02:53:45,469 --> 02:53:42,779
will slow it down because sometimes the

3295
02:53:48,230 --> 02:53:45,479
spirit speaks so fast that your human

3296
02:53:50,990 --> 02:53:48,240
ear can't catch it it's that fast but

3297
02:53:52,730 --> 02:53:51,000
he's found ways to actually slow it down

3298
02:53:55,130 --> 02:53:52,740
enough that the response can be heard

3299
02:53:57,349 --> 02:53:55,140
and he's got example after example where

3300
02:53:58,730 --> 02:53:57,359
if he plays it at regular speed you

3301
02:54:01,370 --> 02:53:58,740
can't even understand what was said but

3302
02:54:04,550 --> 02:54:01,380
if he cuts the speed in half it's clear

3303
02:54:06,710 --> 02:54:04,560
as a bell every word is distinct it's

3304
02:54:09,469 --> 02:54:06,720
it's it's amazing

3305
02:54:12,690 --> 02:54:09,479
here here's Ron's latest comment you

3306
02:54:17,690 --> 02:54:14,990
[Laughter]

3307
02:54:20,570 --> 02:54:17,700
well I learned a lot of this most of it

3308
02:54:22,969 --> 02:54:20,580
from him and he showed me the but

3309
02:54:25,670 --> 02:54:22,979
it's great to have him to work with

3310
02:54:27,650 --> 02:54:25,680
because you know we we feed off each

3311
02:54:28,969 --> 02:54:27,660
other with ideas come and go between the

3312
02:54:30,769 --> 02:54:28,979
two of us and we're just going to keep

3313
02:54:33,349 --> 02:54:30,779
expanding this as far as it can go and I

3314
02:54:35,750 --> 02:54:33,359
think the possibilities are just we

3315
02:54:38,570 --> 02:54:35,760
haven't even hit those limits yet

3316
02:54:41,389 --> 02:54:38,580
um one thing I would uh I would be

3317
02:54:44,389 --> 02:54:41,399
fascinated in in hearing and maybe Ron

3318
02:54:45,349 --> 02:54:44,399
uh can and uh comment in the chat about

3319
02:54:47,650 --> 02:54:45,359
this

3320
02:54:51,710 --> 02:54:47,660
have you thought about bringing in

3321
02:54:56,030 --> 02:54:51,720
somebody to ask questions in another

3322
02:54:58,130 --> 02:54:56,040
language French Spanish Chinese

3323
02:55:00,050 --> 02:54:58,140
well we know we know that's probably

3324
02:55:02,570 --> 02:55:00,060
very possible we haven't done that test

3325
02:55:05,030 --> 02:55:02,580
yet but the fact that you know when we

3326
02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:05,040
were in the Philippines Sheree and I got

3327
02:55:12,410 --> 02:55:09,359
EVPs in English Tagalog Japanese and

3328
02:55:14,389 --> 02:55:12,420
Latin four languages one location

3329
02:55:17,950 --> 02:55:14,399
and uh and it was because of everything

3330
02:55:20,330 --> 02:55:17,960
that was happened the the the hotel was

3331
02:55:22,849 --> 02:55:20,340
uh uh

3332
02:55:26,450 --> 02:55:22,859
priest and nun Retreat prior to it being

3333
02:55:28,250 --> 02:55:26,460
a hotel they obviously spoke Latin the

3334
02:55:31,730 --> 02:55:28,260
Japanese was because of World War II

3335
02:55:34,190 --> 02:55:31,740
they used it as a a military base the

3336
02:55:36,769 --> 02:55:34,200
English was from English or American

3337
02:55:38,929 --> 02:55:36,779
soldiers that were there and tagalog's

3338
02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:38,939
the native language of the Philippines

3339
02:55:43,070 --> 02:55:41,520
so so could we bring somebody in

3340
02:55:45,349 --> 02:55:43,080
speaking French and asking questions

3341
02:55:48,010 --> 02:55:45,359
would we expect that we could get

3342
02:55:51,650 --> 02:55:48,020
answers in French absolutely

3343
02:55:54,410 --> 02:55:51,660
Ron says uh yep Tony's visits to the

3344
02:55:55,969 --> 02:55:54,420
Philippines oh hold on man the chats

3345
02:56:01,250 --> 02:55:55,979
could just going by too fast let me pull

3346
02:56:03,710 --> 02:56:01,260
this up uh I we you actually we played

3347
02:56:07,550 --> 02:56:03,720
the Latin stuff on this show a couple of

3348
02:56:09,469 --> 02:56:07,560
years ago we did yeah yeah yeah I I

3349
02:56:11,809 --> 02:56:09,479
remember that now

3350
02:56:15,650 --> 02:56:11,819
um absolutely incredible but I would you

3351
02:56:16,910 --> 02:56:15,660
know if if if this you know to test uh

3352
02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:16,920
this further

3353
02:56:20,269 --> 02:56:18,720
bring somebody on to ask some questions

3354
02:56:23,269 --> 02:56:20,279
in French and if you get a French

3355
02:56:26,530 --> 02:56:23,279
response right

3356
02:56:28,309 --> 02:56:26,540
right how incredible would that be

3357
02:56:30,410 --> 02:56:28,319
absolutely and I think it's very

3358
02:56:32,150 --> 02:56:30,420
possible but the other tests are you

3359
02:56:34,370 --> 02:56:32,160
know for like scientists to say well you

3360
02:56:36,769 --> 02:56:34,380
know that can't be happening well you

3361
02:56:38,990 --> 02:56:36,779
know what let's run it for you because

3362
02:56:42,010 --> 02:56:39,000
this isn't this isn't a hoax this

3363
02:56:44,809 --> 02:56:42,020
actually happens and it's repeatable

3364
02:56:47,389 --> 02:56:44,819
no Latin no you don't want to mess with

3365
02:56:50,050 --> 02:56:47,399
that you don't want to mess with it you

3366
02:56:53,269 --> 02:56:50,060
don't want to get out

3367
02:56:56,090 --> 02:56:53,279
true be true you don't want to be thrown

3368
02:56:58,550 --> 02:56:56,100
down some stairs like the Exorcist uh

3369
02:57:00,110 --> 02:56:58,560
Tony what an incredible night and and

3370
02:57:02,990 --> 02:57:00,120
you and Sheree I want you guys to have

3371
02:57:07,010 --> 02:57:03,000
the most amazing uh Halloween uh what's

3372
02:57:07,790 --> 02:57:07,020
up next for you on entity voices uh this

3373
02:57:11,150 --> 02:57:07,800
Monday

3374
02:57:13,490 --> 02:57:11,160
uh we are doing our own show of our own

3375
02:57:15,650 --> 02:57:13,500
evidence some of it will include drv

3376
02:57:17,510 --> 02:57:15,660
captures Ron's got some really good

3377
02:57:20,690 --> 02:57:17,520
stuff he we have not released yet which

3378
02:57:22,250 --> 02:57:20,700
he's gonna play I will be doing a drv

3379
02:57:25,309 --> 02:57:22,260
session out in the Superstition

3380
02:57:26,690 --> 02:57:25,319
Mountains on Saturday night and I'm sure

3381
02:57:28,670 --> 02:57:26,700
I'm gonna get some great stuff those

3382
02:57:30,650 --> 02:57:28,680
clips will show up on the show and Chris

3383
02:57:32,750 --> 02:57:30,660
and Audra are bringing stuff as well so

3384
02:57:34,370 --> 02:57:32,760
if you like evidence

3385
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:34,380
Monday night will be a good one to watch

3386
02:57:39,950 --> 02:57:36,720
you guys are the very best have a great

3387
02:57:42,590 --> 02:57:39,960
Halloween get my best to Sheree and oh

3388
02:57:45,290 --> 02:57:42,600
Ron just came back in bocce told his

3389
02:57:48,230 --> 02:57:45,300
communicators he had English speaking

3390
02:57:51,710 --> 02:57:48,240
friends present and the drv vocals

3391
02:57:53,750 --> 02:57:51,720
turned from Italian to English man

3392
02:57:55,790 --> 02:57:53,760
that's crazy town you got it you got we

3393
02:57:59,050 --> 02:57:55,800
got to do some French got to do some

3394
02:58:01,030 --> 02:57:59,060
French and some Spanish Russian

3395
02:58:04,070 --> 02:58:01,040
free Chinese

3396
02:58:05,889 --> 02:58:04,080
oh man Tony you're the best have a great

3397
02:58:09,010 --> 02:58:05,899
Halloween thank you so much my friend

3398
02:58:12,130 --> 02:58:09,020
beautiful perfect show

3399
02:58:14,929 --> 02:58:12,140
Number 1700

3400
02:58:18,050 --> 02:58:14,939
awesome thanks Jimmy thank you so much

3401
02:58:20,630 --> 02:58:18,060
my brother have a great night and uh we

3402
02:58:23,870 --> 02:58:20,640
have got so tomorrow night uh Mike

3403
02:58:25,429 --> 02:58:23,880
ricksecker is is back with us and I want

3404
02:58:27,410 --> 02:58:25,439
to remind everybody Thursday night's

3405
02:58:30,349 --> 02:58:27,420
going to be another fader night but we

3406
02:58:32,450 --> 02:58:30,359
are doing Halloween for the rest of the

3407
02:58:36,650 --> 02:58:32,460
month and this is all going to lead up

3408
02:58:38,030 --> 02:58:36,660
to to the one-year anniversary of the

3409
02:58:40,130 --> 02:58:38,040
acts and that is going to be on

3410
02:58:43,309 --> 02:58:40,140
Halloween night we are going to

3411
02:58:45,710 --> 02:58:43,319
broadcast the entire anniversary show

3412
02:58:47,990 --> 02:58:45,720
from Fade to Black we've got special

3413
02:58:50,450 --> 02:58:48,000
guests and of course we've got uh race

3414
02:58:51,769 --> 02:58:50,460
Hobbs is is going to be with us we're

3415
02:58:54,349 --> 02:58:51,779
going to do some paranormal

3416
02:58:56,389 --> 02:58:54,359
investigating Margie K is going to be

3417
02:58:59,990 --> 02:58:56,399
with us and it's all going to originate

3418
02:59:02,150 --> 02:59:00,000
right here from the bunker uh with that

3419
02:59:04,790 --> 02:59:02,160
thank you everybody

3420
02:59:09,050 --> 02:59:04,800
um I have been gone for two weeks

3421
02:59:12,410 --> 02:59:09,060
um I have not in the last 10 years taken

3422
02:59:15,530 --> 02:59:12,420
any time off and uh it was great for me

3423
02:59:18,170 --> 02:59:15,540
to a take a two week break but to know

3424
02:59:20,809 --> 02:59:18,180
that you were here waiting for me when I

3425
02:59:23,809 --> 02:59:20,819
came back thank you so much this has

3426
02:59:26,150 --> 02:59:23,819
been another great show and just thank

3427
02:59:27,429 --> 02:59:26,160
you tomorrow night Mike ricksecker is

3428
02:59:30,110 --> 02:59:27,439
with us

3429
02:59:33,050 --> 02:59:30,120
Thursday night is another fader night

3430
02:59:34,910 --> 02:59:33,060
with open lines all night long Fade to

3431
02:59:37,429 --> 02:59:34,920
Black is produced by Hilton J Palm Renee

3432
02:59:40,309 --> 02:59:37,439
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3433
02:59:42,230 --> 02:59:40,319
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3434
02:59:44,950 --> 02:59:42,240
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3435
02:59:46,969 --> 02:59:44,960
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3436
02:59:48,830 --> 02:59:46,979
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3437
02:59:50,929 --> 02:59:48,840
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3438
02:59:53,450 --> 02:59:50,939
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3439
02:59:55,130 --> 02:59:53,460
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3440
02:59:57,710 --> 02:59:55,140
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3441
02:59:59,570 --> 02:59:57,720
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3442
03:00:01,490 --> 02:59:59,580
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3443
03:00:02,990 --> 03:00:01,500
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3444
03:00:04,429 --> 03:00:03,000
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3445
03:00:06,590 --> 03:00:04,439
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3446
03:00:10,730 --> 03:00:06,600
church until tomorrow night with Mike

3447
03:00:13,570 --> 03:00:10,740
ricksecker I want everybody to be safe

3448
03:00:32,690 --> 03:00:13,580
go back Lee tappy